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Old 10-26-2011, 05:37 PM   #29
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In My Humble Opinion the safest heating is a plumbed in propane furnace. The combustion is vent to the outside both intake and exhaust. The plumbing is solid and leak checked at least once a year. Many many homes have gas forced air furnaces and they think nothing of it.
I think if I was in your situation I'd try to get a RV forced air furnace installed. If I didn't want a propane tank on the tongue, I'd get a smaller tank with quick disconnect connections and hoses to set on the ground when I wanted the furnace.

I did a temperature test on the inside of my trailer around the forced air furnace. No place could I find temperatures close to the paper or cloth flash points or even close to the boiling point of water.

I have a hard time imagining owning a trailer without the furnace. In March of this year, we were in Big Bend NP, TX. Even there it got cold, very cold. Down to 5 two nights in the teens for 3 or 4 more nights.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:31 AM   #30
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Mr. Heater Buddy and forced air furnace

We use both Mr. Heater Buddy and the stock forced air furnace in our Bigfoot 17.

While the forced-air furnace is safe, it is noisy, uses electricity, and uses quite a bit of propane. (Feel the exhaust air and you'll know why.) We mostly use it on freezing nights on its lowest setting, just to keep the plumbing from freezing.

The Buddy is definitely a fire hazard. We are quite careful with it. We keep the area around and immediately above it clear. We NEVER sleep with it on. We ventilate more than adequately.

Since the Buddy has no thermostat, just high and low settings, it must be manually turned on and off as temperature dictates. In our small trailer this has not been overly inconvenient.

Our Buddy regulator has been bypassed so it will run on low pressure propane like the stove does. The propane line to the furnace was tapped into so another line could feed the Buddy. That line has its own shut-off valve as well as a female quick-disconnect fitting. The Buddy has been fitted with a 5' hose ending in the male half of the quick-disconnect. During warm times the hose can be disconnected and the unit stowed under the dinette.

We just finished 8 months on the road, including three months in Alaska. Our little rolling house went all the way to Prudhoe Bay at the Arctic Ocean! The heating systems worked just fine. I would like to try a catalytic heater sometime for safety reasons.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:06 PM   #31
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Mr buddy

I'm still struggling with the heater choice. I bought a mr buddy. It started well at home, but when we went camping it wouldn't start one night. The next morning, it started well again. I felt frustrated with it, and returned it. Don't know why it wouldn't start for either one of us. We both tried and tried.

Have been looking at the catalyst wave 3 heater.

This hobby of camping just keeps getting more and more expensive. I do like the idea of putting plumbing in, and putting a propane tank on the tongue, but concerned about the expense of doing that.

It seems crazy to have to leave a window open, when you're looking for warmth.
I have a little cube heater, but am trying to get off the grid more and more.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:33 PM   #32
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My Trillium did not have a factory installed heater, so, I was planning on just using the Mr. Buddy heater. However, I cannot develop enough nerve to leave it running all night, and, it gets cold (above 4500') in the early spring/late fall.

So, I managed to find one of the older convection type furnaces which I will be installing. They have a rudimentary type of thermostat, and, a basic "B" vent that brings its combustion air from outside and vents to the outside. Probably not very efficient, but, pretty safe. Enough to leave on overnight, I hope! Also, no fan, so no power needed.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:51 PM   #33
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My Trillium did not have a factory installed heater, so, I was planning on just using the Mr. Buddy heater. However, I cannot develop enough nerve to leave it running all night, and, it gets cold (above 4500') in the early spring/late fall.

So, I managed to find one of the older convection type furnaces which I will be installing. They have a rudimentary type of thermostat, and, a basic "B" vent that brings its combustion air from outside and vents to the outside. Probably not very efficient, but, pretty safe. Enough to leave on overnight, I hope! Also, no fan, so no power needed.
I had that type furnace in my 1969 Thorobred... IT worked GREAT and was quiet and didn't waste battery power, Wish they still made a version of it!

I just heard that they quit making the 12000btu suburban furnace so now the 16000btu is going into the new Scamp 13s ... even more overkill!
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:36 PM   #34
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I would think that 12000 btu is a lot of heat. Can't imagine having 16000 in a small trailer. I would have to have the windows open and the furnace on low.

The older types are not as "fancy", but, they work fine in the smaller trailers. I can imagine wanting more heat, and a fan, in a larger trailer.
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Old 10-31-2011, 06:43 AM   #35
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The big buddy heaters take several tries to light when cold, it takes a minute or so to get the propane flowing. You have to hold the switch in the on position for about 30 seconds to a minute before you click the spark.
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I'm still struggling with the heater choice. I bought a mr buddy. It started well at home, but when we went camping it wouldn't start one night. The next morning, it started well again. I felt frustrated with it, and returned it. Don't know why it wouldn't start for either one of us. We both tried and tried.

Have been looking at the catalyst wave 3 heater.

This hobby of camping just keeps getting more and more expensive. I do like the idea of putting plumbing in, and putting a propane tank on the tongue, but concerned about the expense of doing that.

It seems crazy to have to leave a window open, when you're looking for warmth.
I have a little cube heater, but am trying to get off the grid more and more.
Ruth,
I agree with Byron. My EggCamper came as "totally electric" and when we're connected, its small electric heater worked pretty well. But where I live in the northeast, it's rare to have power hookups at the state/federal parks (which have the nicer campsites IMO).

My solution was an Atwood 8012-II propane furnace. Power draw is 1.8 amps for its quiet fan. It vents outside and at 12000 btu does a good job heating the egg. Now I'm replacing the original electric water heater with an Atwood 6 gal gas/electric combo, with electronic ignition.

Along with LEDs and some solar, these should free me from the grid, but the down side of these upgrades is the cost.

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Old 10-31-2011, 07:22 PM   #37
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We just did two nights - one at 25 degrees and one at 30.
Loved having the simplicity, convenience, and out-of-the-way location of the built-in scamp furnace. With only 13', I can't imagine trying to move around some hot heater cube or a Mr. Buddy somewhere.

For upper midwest, the furnace is awesome. We hope to make some longer trips out to Maine and the big parks out west and I'm sure we'll hit some cold nights.

My first reaction was, with going so far to having a nice inside, waterproof, stand up trailer - why not another tiny step to having it always be a warm and cozy comfortable temperature. Even working inside the trailer on the driveway back at the house I'm loving it.

I can get through the noise and from my years of overnight road biking trips with roommates, always pack foam ear plugs. Tent camping I always slept with them so that the birds didn't wake me up at 5am! So for those with big noise sensitivity, that might be a cheap option.
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About the costs: maybe our trailers are a bit like boats. I have heard "boat" defined as a hole in the water that you pour money into. Yup, a hobby like RVing does take money, and trailers do seem to beg for upgrades and accessories.

I don't know if there is a perfect solution to the heating issue. Each heater has pros and cons. You may have to keep doing trial and error testing until you hit on what works best for you.

If I have shore power I plug in the electric heater. If no shore power, I'm still playing around between the furnace, the Coleman Black Cat catalytic, and a 12v mattress warmer. Maybe in another year or two I'll have an answer for myself.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:06 AM   #39
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Ruth,
have you seen this: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...ces-48505.html

I just saw it cruising around, and they are close so shipping shouldn't be much. I did a quick look around and that price is about half. No idea if any are left.
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