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Old 11-04-2014, 08:11 PM   #15
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Different years are have different construction, photo is an google example of the area I was explaining. Google scamp frame cracks for more examples of that same area. I like this trailer and think it's pretty clean for the year. Keep us posted.
Thats true but as I indicated the photo you have shown is how the majority of Scamps I have seen including my own came from the factory.

The failures on Scamp frames you mention do happen in this area and it usually due to the original welds shown in the photo failing with time. It is also equally as common (maybe even more common) for the frame failure to be on the beam under the trailer (about 3' back from the area in the photo) where the beam takes a bend.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:06 PM   #16
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Wendy, there are really only two prices. What the sellar wants and what it's worth to you to own it! When was the last time you saw a trailer, in this shape, for sale in your (reasonable) driving area. And, how long are you willing to wait for something else to show up that fits your budget, etc.

Once you know the answers to those questions, only you can decide if you want to own it. Some folks are willing to wait (months/years) others are not.

One thing I do know, is you can never, ever get back time. If you want to go camping soon...
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:33 PM   #17
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Thought you'd all like to know that you were right! It was a mess. A prong on the plug had been broken off so we couldn't plug it in to test anything. The inside had mold in the closet. He had already dropped the price to $5,900 but still wasn't enough. Didn't matter. I didn't want a project that big anyhow. No matter the price. Thanks for your help! I'm going to keep looking.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:35 PM   #18
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Thats true but as I indicated the photo you have shown is how the majority of Scamps I have seen including my own came from the factory.

The failures on Scamp frames you mention do happen in this area and it usually due to the original welds shown in the photo failing with time. It is also equally as common (maybe even more common) for the frame failure to be on the beam under the trailer (about 3' back from the area in the photo) where the beam takes a bend.
Scamp frames have undergone several changes over the years starting with a 1200# leading arm axle on a lighter gauge frame, then transitioning to a 2200# axle, then on to a 2200# trailing arm axle. At some point the frame tubing gauge was increased, pretty much eliminating frame cracks which were fairly rare to begin with.
Below is a picture of my 2004 Scamp13 tongue. Notice it has no additional angle iron.
Post fire 13s went to a tongue with the same configuration as the 16s, including a 2" hitch with a vertical tongue jack.
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:03 AM   #19
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Wendy - good for you for knowng it was a project you didn't want to take on, lots of people don't and get in over their heads. The right trailer will come along.
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Sounds like you have a good 'gut' feeling for good/bad if you've flipped houses.

And now that you've 'dipped your toe' into the shopping market, the best thing to to is learn, learn learn, from everyone on this site. There is a huge amount of knowlege here and everyone is very happy to share.

Also, be sure and read the 'Trailer weights in the real world' posting, so you fully understand the weight of the trailer. The 'stated weights' or 'dry 'weights' that you hear are usually at least 20% lower than the actual weight.
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Old 11-06-2014, 02:33 PM   #21
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Scamp frames have undergone several changes over the years starting with a 1200# leading arm axle on a lighter gauge frame, then transitioning to a 2200# axle, then on to a 2200# trailing arm axle. At some point the frame tubing gauge was increased, pretty much eliminating frame cracks which were fairly rare to begin with.
Below is a picture of my 2004 Scamp13 tongue. Notice it has no additional angle iron.
Post fire 13s went to a tongue with the same configuration as the 16s, including a 2" hitch with a vertical tongue jack.
Floyd do you know what year Scamp actually stopped adding the additional angle iron? Was it about the same time they upgraded the 16' to the 2" ball?
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Floyd do you know what year Scamp actually stopped adding the additional angle iron? Was it about the same time they upgraded the 16' to the 2" ball?
I have had older scamps and never really noticed that part. If I had seen it I would have assumed it to be aftermarket. My guess is that it was when they went to the heavier gauge steel and the 2200# axle on the 13 (3500 on the 16). Late eighties?? Early nineties??
Your guess is likely a good one, since the 16 probably increased the axle capacity from 2200 to 3500 at the same time.
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I would also speculate that no trailing arm Scamp came with that feature.
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I have had older scamps and never really noticed that part. If I had seen it I would have assumed it to be aftermarket. My guess is that it was when they went to the heavier gauge steel and the 2200# axle on the 13 (3500 on the 16). Late eighties?? Early nineties??
Your guess is likely a good one, since the 16 probably increased the axle capacity from 2200 to 3500 at the same time.
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I would also speculate that no trailing arm Scamp came with that feature.
Not surprised you did not notice it as on some Scamps there is very little of it showing on the outside of the house - on mine maybe 2" - but have seen them with only an 1" or less visible.

I was kind of thinking it may not have been until the mid/late 90's as my 92 16' has the angle iron and seem to recall a friends 94 or 95 did as well. I recall it as they asked me before they bought the trailer if I thought it to be an after market repair they should be concerned about.
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All I can tell y'all is my 1988 has the angle iron and the 1-7/8" ball from the factory and all that is working well after nearly 26 years.
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All I can tell y'all is my 1988 has the angle iron and the 1-7/8" ball from the factory and all that is working well after nearly 26 years.
That is the only way to find the answer to some Scamp questions... hear from owners who have had them forever!

Scamp has not been good at documenting change over the years, leaving us to keep track. Even then, it can lead to some strange results.

I once set out to determine when they switched from leading arm to trailing arm axles on the 13s. I was seriously surprised to find a 2001 with a leading arm, I was sure I had seen older ones with a trailing arm??

Bottom line?...there are few Scamp absolutes!
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