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Old 12-10-2014, 09:24 AM   #29
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Alternatives to riveted curtain rod holders

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...As for the curtains, I will probably make that decision after I look at a camper. We have rat-fur on our boat and attach our curtains with Velcro - just sew the hook half to the curtains and stick it on the carpet/rat-fur. Don't know if that will work on a scamp but it works really well on the boat...
One issue I've read in others' posts is that over time velcro will raise the nap if it is frequently removed and reattached. I might use it on the door, since we rarely open those curtains.

Here's an option for the rear windows, since they have a metal frame, and get opened and closed a lot (see Donna D's post #11):
Curtain Rod Brackets...I need suggestions

For the front window, I figured out quickly that curtains just get in the way if you use the upper bunk, so I leave the curtains and rod at home, and put up the gravel guard at night.
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:47 PM   #30
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Thinking about vents and hatches brought something else to mind…

You do not need AC, but you might consider the AC prep option. It adds reinforcement to the roof to allow an AC unit to be added in the future (might include the 110V wiring, too). These trailers last a long time, and your needs (as well as possible future owners' needs) may change.

I've also heard the opening for the Fantastic fan is the same size as the opening for the AC unit. I'm wondering if it is possible to include the AC prep option and install the Fantastic fan where the AC goes. Then, later, if you or a new owner decides to install AC, you already have the hole, the reinforcement, and maybe the wiring.

I'm not sure if I'm making sense or thinking clearly… thoughts?
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:33 PM   #31
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Terry, you are a new member, but I bet you just solved a lot of members' problems of how to attach curtains in a rig with rat fur.
I would like to find out if other people have used Velcro on the rat fur and how well it worked out. I have been using it to hold in place blinds that reduce heat loss through the windows on cold nights. They may have been on/off a couple dozen times, counting usage and the time I was fitting them. A few lose threads came off the rat fur, but no change in how it feels or looks. Is this worth starting a separate thread?
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:42 PM   #32
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Terry, without the A/C option, there is a rectangular fairly large escape hatch / vent in the ceiling. It is approximately in the center of the roof. If you opt for A/C, that hole is where the A/C unit is mounted. The Fantastic fan is normally mounted over the bed in a smaller square shaped hole. I believe they will install just a screen in that hole if you don't want that fan.

Personally, we would give up all the options in our trailer before we'd give up that fan over the bed. It makes all the difference in the world when trying to sleep on a hot night. We always use it as an exhaust fan. Heat rises and is whisked outside. Even on low (quiet) speed, it is very efficient in the little trailer and will exchange the warm air inside for the cool outside air very quickly. We regulate it by opening the rear and side windows and the fan pulls the cold air in right where you sleep. If you close those windows, you can get a less direct air exchange using the little window over the stove.

Although I can't imagine having too much of a moisture problem in Utah, the fiberglass trailers do need to be well ventilated to prevent moisture, especially when using the stove to boil water for coffee or tea, etc. The Fantastic fan works very well for that.

Our 2nd favorite option is the screen door. That comes as part of the city water option package. I think Scamp did a good job when designing that. We use it all the time.

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Old 12-10-2014, 06:56 PM   #33
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Jim, Have you done the White Rim Road, we saw a lot of dirt bikers when we made our circuit, took us 10 hours to cover the 80 miles. For the last couple of trips we have been staying in the Blanding/Bluff area, lot of ruins and canyons to explore. We off road in a Ford Raptor which only gets 13/14 mpg on a good day without a camper in tow, hoping the 13 won't bring my mpg below 10, if it does I may have to come out of retirement and go back to work. BTW we grew up in Greensburg, love KS. Terry
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:03 PM   #34
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Jon, talked to Wayne at Scamp about getting the wiring and extra roof support. We don't plan on getting air con now but we are going to plan for it.
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:39 PM   #35
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I would ask scamp to leave off the curtain rod brackets. The aluminum window frames have plenty of beef to attach to without holes in the fiberglass. Also ask them not to mount the sewer hose container. It's ugly. Put it under the trailer like so many have done.
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:50 PM   #36
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Terry, yes I did the White rim Road 3 years ago in a 98 Jeep cherokee. That, the night before, and the day after on an attempt at Kane creek trail is a long interesting story. Crossing a creek too fast I discovered Jeeps don't run well when water goes through the air intake and into the cylinders. LOL

We spent the night 2 years ago at Bluff in the most run down motel I have ever stayed in. Went to Goose necks, Valley of the Gods, and on to Page, Az. the next day. Last year did Lockhart canyon to Moab with the Jeep, and want to go back over it with my bike. Have also done many of the trails around Moab, mostly with the Jeep. Now have a new (old) bike I want to take out there. The other one I had wasn't the best choice for that terrain.

Never thought I would enjoy the desert, but fell in love on the first visit. Your Raptor should take you about anywhere you want to go, except some of the really narrow places. There was one place I had to turn around last year. I am trying to get up a group to go back in the spring. If you are interested, or want to share more Off road adventures, perhaps we could take it to another forum??
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:07 PM   #37
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Jim, you are right, the Raptor is too wide for a lot of the jeep trails, I use a machete quite often. Going out in the spring, been looking for someone to do the Flint trail, been afraid to do it solo.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:05 AM   #38
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Yes, I would leave the curtain hardware off as they use a crazy amount of rivets to put them on and then you can add what you want later and not put holes to the outside.
Absolutely, positively don't have the hardware mounted... ick. AND, not the lovely stinky slinky tube holder on the front of the trailer. Like that is a thing of beauty. Double ICK.

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Old 12-11-2014, 08:30 AM   #39
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Terry didn't mention getting a grey water tank, so there won't be a hose holder. But if they change their mind, I'll third that recommendation!

Another thing... I don't think Scamp includes any fire/CO/LP detectors from the factory. I know mine didn't have any- just an undersized fire extinguisher. Something to plan for...
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I may have missed it but I have not seen anyone mention the optional screen door. I would not want a trailer without it and its the one thing that every person I know with a trailer that doesn't have one wants to know more about, Mine has been measured and photographed many times by people trying to make one for their own trailer. Its nice to be able to leave the door open for ventilation at night but not let any creepy crawlies in.

The first item I added to my trailer was a Fantastic Fan, another item I would not want to be without. Stopped packing a small AC unit the previous owner had given me once I had the fan installed.

I added an extra outside electrical outlet but it probable the least used item I have added as I camp often without hook-ups.

The furnace & front window rock guard if optional are also two items I would not want to be without.
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