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Old 07-25-2013, 09:31 AM   #29
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I agree with the one propane tank . It took three years of camping in our Scamp before we got to using the second propane tank. Outside GFI receptacle, fantastic fan, extra lights, 12 VDC outlet, electric brakes ,front exterior light, A/C ,awning ,step,screen door and extra cabinet storage space are all nice and useful options IMHO
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:39 AM   #30
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O-ring

I'll post a picture for you. On our fridge it requires the addition of one screw.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:59 AM   #31
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Thanks Steve...got them too. Did the awning come with the poles and ropes? Anything else I may need to get or do before I get it other than changing the pin to a 7 and getting the controller box for my jeep?

Norm...that would be great. Any other helpful hints are always appreciated. I haven't done this since our family had a 16 ft FAN travel trailer in the 50's and. 60's. great memories.
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The poles on mine were built into the awning, (Dometic) NO ropes or stakes were included but my Scamp came used . Leveling blocks or a BAL leveler ,wheel chocks. pads for stabilizers, 30 Amp to 15 Amp 120 VAC adapter , hitch lock , tire gauge , an
electrical multimeter , spare fuses for the DC ,spare lamps for interior light fixtures and running lights, and an outside mat for wiping off your shoes before entering the trailer. We drilled a small hole in the refrigerator frame that aligned with the unused hinge hole in the handle side of the door and used a steel pin to hold the door closed (The door has never popped open when traveling but we have misplaced the pin several times)
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #33
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Fridge O-ring

I simply drilled a small hole for a small cup hook that I had closed. I usefd a large o-ring available at any hardware store.

The existing fridge lock has opened even when used. This has not opened.

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Old 07-25-2013, 01:25 PM   #34
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My husband and I are also looking at a Scamp 13 deluxe with the front dinette. I noticed that many people recommended the electric brakes. We've towed our 76 Boler for many years with a Honda Odyssey with no electric brakes and no problems. I realize the Scamp is heavier, but would like to keep things safe and as simple as possible. (And I noticed another thread where difficulties with the brakes were discussed.) The comments in this thread have been really helpful! I'd appreciate hearing more of members' thinking about the brakes.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:44 PM   #35
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One thing about brakes is, if you decide later you need them, it's hard to retrofit (requires a new axle).
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:48 PM   #36
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There's only one way you'll find out if you truly need them…

My car trailer weighs 2000 lbs. When the wiring harness was cut and I lost brakes, it was quite noticeable with an empty trailer behind a half ton truck. I didn't like driving home on interstate that way, in a car, forget it.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:50 PM   #37
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One thing about brakes is, if you decide later you need them, it's hard to retrofit (requires a new axle).
Eh…sometimes. Some axles come with the flanges and no brakes. Putting brakes on the second axle of my car trailer took 1.5 hours, the flanges were there.
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Another thing about trailer brakes,when you need to stop in an emergency it is far too late to add them, at any price.

For everyone who says they have been towing for years without them without problems, I ask if they can guarantee that nothing unexpected will ever happen in the future which will require the full braking ability of the rig. Another way to look at it: you could drive your everyday car (not towing) without any rear brakes at all and it would work fine in normal driving... but would you choose to do that?
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:30 PM   #39
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The 13' Scamp with bathroom will probably exceed your 2000 lb limit Therefore you want to reduce the weight as much as possible if you really have to have the toilet/shower. Your going to be squirrely enough with the Wrangle's short wheel base without adding a bunch more weight to tongue, which a toilet/shower will do.

I'll give you a bit of my experiences. First I rarely stay where there's any hookups, no electric devices other than the 12 volt lights and the furnace fan. No water pump, no shower, no toilet, no television, no microwave, no air conditioner, etc., etc. Those things all add weight and we wouldn't use them. Anything that requires 120 Volts is left off. With 12 gallons of water and some propane, (single tank) my trailer weighs about 1870lbs with 180 of that tongue weight.
Options... BRAKES.
Without the toilet I get a front overhead cabinet and rear overhead cabinet. Along with a couch/bunk bed. (Grand kids love the bunk bed)
no awning, can't use it in the wind anyway and we've been in some really strong winds.
Furnace.. Even in the south it gets cold at times, 5 on one trip in TX.
We're out for minimum 3 months every winter. Then 7 to 14 day trips during the summer, close to 120 days per year.
My Scamp 13 deluxe front bath doesn't exceed 2000# loaded for a trip.
It tows great with the shortest wheelbased Ranger or my Escape.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:42 PM   #40
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We ordered our 16' this spring and it arrived just in time for summer camping. We basically went with almost everything because we didn't want to add things later. Here's a quick run down of my post purchase thoughts...

Standard vs. Deluxe
Deluxe adds weight and the cabinetry is harder to keep clean. Sure it looks good, but it's a camper not the kitchen in your McMansion. The fiberglass cleans up easy...and it does and will get wet and dirty because you are camping!

Shower/Toilet
We haven't used either yet, but its nice to know its there. We'll get to it eventually but for now we're happy with using campground amenities.

Fantastic Fan
This is a must. Do not order yours without it! Perfect for sites where you don't have 120v for the a/c. Perfect for when you are cooking to keep the smoke/steam out.

A/C
We've used it already and are glad it is there. You have to pay a premium for sites with 120v hookups but in the summer it's good to know there is a way to escape the heat and get a good night's sleep.

Fridge
We went with the big one. It's overkill for weekend camping. I always stock food first and fill the rest with adult beverages...I haven't run out of adult beverages yet

Furnace
We got one for fall camping but it probably won't get much use. It's probably something I would have passed on in favor of having that space for storage. We don't plan to camp in winter.

Awning
With our 16' it is useful. We use it. For a 13' I would follow the recommendations above and get a mosquito tent or something instead.

TV antenna
Skipped this one, we don't go camping so we can watch TV. If that's our plan we'll stay home! If you plan to full-time or something I could see this option getting more use.

Dual Gas Tanks
Not sure we needed this, especially since we don't plan to do winter camping. I just figured i wouldn't ever have to worry about running out. The fact is, we use very little gas on our trips so i'm not sure we'll use up a single tank all summer long let alone two.

screen door
this is an absolute must. It works great and allows you to keep the door open on nice days.

Cabinets
Get them all. They shouldn't be optional, they should all be standard features.

2" receiver for bike rack
We skipped this option after reading about complaints with sway. It can be added later fairly cheap.

Microwave
We used it a few times but could probably use the storage space instead

Hot water heater
Unless you plan to use the shower you probably don't need this. I turned ours on to make sure it worked but haven't bothered with it on our camping trips since we don't use the shower.

12v water pump
We use it but don't leave it on. When city water isn't available it comes in handy.

Vinyl Floor
This is a must. I can't imagine having carpet. My wife is constantly sweeping the dirt out.

12v and 120v jacks
We had them install all. We've used everything except the one on the outside.

front porch light
Used it a few times to find the right key and open the door but not a must have.

curtains
As others mentioned, we told scamp to omit the curtains on all windows except the door. We bought parts from IKEA and installed our own. Check out my forum thread for details.
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We ordered our 16' this spring and it arrived just in time for summer camping. We basically went with almost everything because we didn't want to add things later. Here's a quick run down of my post purchase thoughts...

Standard vs. Deluxe
Deluxe adds weight and the cabinetry is harder to keep clean. Sure it looks good, but it's a camper not the kitchen in your McMansion. The fiberglass cleans up easy...and it does and will get wet and dirty because you are camping!

Shower/Toilet
We haven't used either yet, but its nice to know its there. We'll get to it eventually but for now we're happy with using campground amenities.

Fantastic Fan
This is a must. Do not order yours without it! Perfect for sites where you don't have 120v for the a/c. Perfect for when you are cooking to keep the smoke/steam out.

A/C
We've used it already and are glad it is there. You have to pay a premium for sites with 120v hookups but in the summer it's good to know there is a way to escape the heat and get a good night's sleep.

Fridge
We went with the big one. It's overkill for weekend camping. I always stock food first and fill the rest with adult beverages...I haven't run out of adult beverages yet

Furnace
We got one for fall camping but it probably won't get much use. It's probably something I would have passed on in favor of having that space for storage. We don't plan to camp in winter.

Awning
With our 16' it is useful. We use it. For a 13' I would follow the recommendations above and get a mosquito tent or something instead.

TV antenna
Skipped this one, we don't go camping so we can watch TV. If that's our plan we'll stay home! If you plan to full-time or something I could see this option getting more use.

Dual Gas Tanks
Not sure we needed this, especially since we don't plan to do winter camping. I just figured i wouldn't ever have to worry about running out. The fact is, we use very little gas on our trips so i'm not sure we'll use up a single tank all summer long let alone two.

screen door
this is an absolute must. It works great and allows you to keep the door open on nice days.

Cabinets
Get them all. They shouldn't be optional, they should all be standard features.

2" receiver for bike rack
We skipped this option after reading about complaints with sway. It can be added later fairly cheap.

Microwave
We used it a few times but could probably use the storage space instead

Hot water heater
Unless you plan to use the shower you probably don't need this. I turned ours on to make sure it worked but haven't bothered with it on our camping trips since we don't use the shower.

12v water pump
We use it but don't leave it on. When city water isn't available it comes in handy.

Vinyl Floor
This is a must. I can't imagine having carpet. My wife is constantly sweeping the dirt out.

12v and 120v jacks
We had them install all. We've used everything except the one on the outside.

front porch light
Used it a few times to find the right key and open the door but not a must have.

curtains
As others mentioned, we told scamp to omit the curtains on all windows except the door. We bought parts from IKEA and installed our own. Check out my forum thread for details.
All the remarks in the above "rundown" are great, sensible and based on sound opinion, with the exception of the first which assumes facts not in evidence.
I like the heatstrip in the A/C, an option which works well and is commonly overlooked.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:01 PM   #42
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Another thing about trailer brakes,when you need to stop in an emergency it is far too late to add them, at any price.

For everyone who says they have been towing for years without them without problems, I ask if they can guarantee that nothing unexpected will ever happen in the future which will require the full braking ability of the rig. Another way to look at it: you could drive your everyday car (not towing) without any rear brakes at all and it would work fine in normal driving... but would you choose to do that?
Exactly. The first time I had mine out, I was going down a wet slippery hill, and was glad to have them. Granted, it's a 19' fifth wheel, but also with a 1/2 ton pickup.

There's no such thing as too much braking power, you don't have to use all of it.

I always bring up the "what if", because you're assuming you will never have trouble with the vehicle brakes, or have to panic brake. Take it from somebody that lost rear brakes and trailer brakes simultaneously on interstate…it's not a fun ride. I got lucky, and again, that was a 1/2 ton with a 2000lb trailer.
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