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Old 07-26-2013, 06:02 PM   #57
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I think the 'myth' began on the Scamp web site.

They show the wooden interior as heavier though I must admit on the 13 only 100 lbs heavier.

On the Scamp 16 the difference is closer to 400 lbs. To me that would be substantial, particularly if it transfers to the tongue.
While I wouldn't presume to doubt what you say, I can not find any such statements on the Scamp website. Could you please point them out?
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:17 PM   #58
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Go to the Scamp website pick a trailer model and go to specifications and see the trailer weight ranges.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:55 PM   #59
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~~~I know we will order the air but, living in Gulf Shores, Al...I'm not sure I want the furnace...especially because I can always use a small electric space heater. The awning seems to be an $800 must. More cabinetry and lighting seems like a good idea too. The microwave oven is $220... I can buy a small lightweight one for under $100 and put it in a cabinet so..??? should I upgrade to linoleum? Is the TV antenna worth it? Should I upgrade to a larger fridge, larger battery...I'm really a newbie on the function of electric brakes...order them or have installed later? I chose the 13 ft vs the 16 because I have a 2013 Jeep Wrangler with a GTW of 2,000 lbs. I felt the 16 would be too heavy and of course more money, plus, like I said...these buggers are not cheap, any advice would be appreciated. We wiant to take a 6 week trip to Florida this winter but mostly will use it on weekends, football games, etc. Heck, we just realized we should get an outside ground mat...lol. Please share your thoughts and advice from experience...thank you...H[/QUOTE]

We would not recommend the awning, too expensive...an easy-up would work just fine and hopefully wouldn't damage the trailer if the wind comes up.

would recommend the extra lighting (f they have an option for LED's, choose those), vinyl flooring.

we have the TV antenna but have not used it much since we can't pick up many stations and the TV is just another thing to haul....use our laptop for movies, etc.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:02 PM   #60
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Go to the Scamp website pick a trailer model and go to specifications and see the trailer weight ranges.
I found what you were talking about and you may be right about that being a partial source for the myth, although the myth far predates the website. It must be taken into account the difference in base features and layouts. I see no evidence that it is the wood vs fiberglass cabinets which makes the difference.

I still say "Myth Busted" even if the "average" deluxe slightly outweighs the "average" standard (what ever that means)
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The hundred pounds difference in the basest of each "approximation" is easily explained by base features, heck the fridge alone makes up almost all of it, compared to the icebox.

When Options are added those numbers become even less relevant
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Old 07-28-2013, 01:21 PM   #61
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I can see there not being much difference for the 13' but there is quite a bit of wood in the 16'. It adds up just like every other option. If you don't think so, ask yourself why we are hauling FG rvs instead of ones made of wood and metal?
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Old 07-28-2013, 02:16 PM   #62
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Why FGRV's

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I can see there not being much difference for the 13' but there is quite a bit of wood in the 16'. It adds up just like every other option. If you don't think so, ask yourself why we are hauling FG rvs instead of ones made of wood and metal?

That's easy, and it's not all about weight alone. Many, if not most, of us prefer FGRV's over sticky construction because they last and last and last.

Although numbers posted earlier suggest that there weren't all that many SCAMPS made, I'll almost bet that 90% of those ever built, minus any involved in accidents, fires etc, are still on the road. Can anyone make that claim for any brand of sticky..... Most of those from before 1980, and many, many built after 1980, have all fallen apart from water leaks etc.

And like my earlier comment about Rino Liner; Unlike love, fiberglass is forever.....

BTW: Airstreams are not sticky's
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:13 PM   #63
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Well Bob, going with your theme of fiberglass forever, wouldn't you want to apply that to the interior as well? You can take care of wood and make it last...but you can do basically nothing to fiberglass and it will last longer. If this is the last camper you ever plan to buy, the more fiberglass used in its construction the better.
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:06 PM   #64
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Better yet, if a molded fiberglass camper is the first camper you ever buy, you won't have to learn about sticky's the hard way.....
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:55 PM   #65
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There are good points and bad points for either kind of interior.

Fiberglass is easy to clean, much brighter (which may make the interior to APPEAR bigger). It's also harder to modify or repair (are you up to fixing damage? Like cracks, pits, etc [and they CAN/DO happen)

Wood interiors can still be cleaned... anyone other than me use Murphy's oil soap on the wood? Is easier to modify... wood is wood... cuts with saws, put together with screws, etc. But, it will be darker and wood darkens with age. Just ask me about a 26 year old Scamp Deluxe...

Either can be painted, just require different kinds of paint and care after paint.

Whichever way you go... it will be the ONE for you
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:18 AM   #66
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Thanks Steve...got them too. Did the awning come with the poles and ropes? Anything else I may need to get or do before I get it other than changing the pin to a 7 and getting the controller box for my jeep?

Norm...that would be great. Any other helpful hints are always appreciated. I haven't done this since our family had a 16 ft FAN travel trailer in the 50's and. 60's. great memories.
You might want to check if your jeep is already wired for a 7pin connector. Seems like most vehicles that are purchased with a tow package are already set up for it. My Tacoma had a wiring harness already in place and the Tekonsha controller I ordered plugged directly into it making it very simple to install. It would surprise me if Jeep sells a towing package that wasn't intended to include brakes.
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You might want to check if your jeep is already wired for a 7pin connector. Seems like most vehicles that are purchased with a tow package are already set up for it. My Tacoma had a wiring harness already in place and the Tekonsha controller I ordered plugged directly into it making it very simple to install. It would surprise me if Jeep sells a towing package that wasn't intended to include brakes.
Unfortunately the tow package on the wrangler is 4 pin only.
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Unfortunately the tow package on the wrangler is 4 pin only.
If you have someplace wire in a 7 pin (it's pretty inexpensive) make sure they provide thick hot wire and ground wire.

The hot wire is used to charge the rv battery or run fridge on 12 volt while traveling.

You want at least 10 gauge, and 8 would be better for the hot wire and frame ground. The voltage drop caused by thin wire typically used for trailer lights, or break-away brake battery charging does not work for the primary use of the hot line with a camper.

You might even need to bring your own spool of wire for the hot, and a short piece for the ground if the shop does not have the heavy wire.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:39 AM   #69
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Well, as a follow up post...we FINALLY ordered one with the options we wanted and we changed several things. Once we received the video and after much discussion, we ordered the 13 ft standard with most every option available except the furnace....didn't need it but did order the heat strip. We got every light, cabinet, outlet, etc. we could. Donna...you are right on the tube...still working on that one. If it wasn't for these forums and all the generous help and advice you have shared, the process would have been much harder. Completion date is sometime in Oct. thank you all!!!
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