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Old 05-23-2014, 02:37 PM   #15
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I assume you are asking Bob, because I am in Alberta Canada, not yet a part of California.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:56 PM   #16
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I just got off the phone with AAA DMV office and they sounded hopeful. Apparently it has dropped off the system and it needs a new title application REG 343. Said it should just cost the same as registering for the first time. Perhaps too good to be true. I will let you know how it turns out. Fingers crossed for me.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:59 PM   #17
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Correct, sorry about that...but you know how Americans are with geography...hopefully this camper will help with that. I really appreciate all your detailed info, Ill keep you posted on the outcome, hope to have it in hand this weekend. Ill be up to my eyeballs in cleaning products. Honestly, who puts shag carpeting in a camper...go 70's.

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Old 05-23-2014, 04:15 PM   #18
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David, can you tell me where the water tank is located please? I tried looking around when I went for a first look but didnt see it, but there was a lot of stuff everywhere and in the storage areas too, so maybe it was just covered over.

Thanks...sorry for the many posts.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:30 PM   #19
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Another feature of the 4500 is that the water tank is under the floor, under the table. In the 1300 it is in one of the dinette seats. Pull up that shag and there will be a plywood panel, probably with a hatch at the front to get at the plumbing. You can unscrew that sheet of plywood and pull it right up.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:58 PM   #20
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Complete the transaction at the licensing agency, and BEFORE you hand over the rest of the money. That way you'll walk out with clear ownership.
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Old 05-24-2014, 12:06 AM   #21
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Okay I'm seeing a wide range of prices on vintage trilliums in different conditions. I've put a deposit on mine to be paid in full this weekend, but seller didn't disclose no title until after the handshake. Any thoughts on what a fair price should be for this trillium 4500 in said condition...see original pics. Keep in mind I'm in Southern California and everything seems more expensive here.
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Old 05-24-2014, 03:15 AM   #22
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I do believe that after 7 years of a Calif vehicle not being regestered it falls off the DMV's system and can be reregistered with no penalties for back payment. It is considered as a new registration in the system. I've done this before years ago but I have no idea if rules have changed. If you have a Calif plate on it I would take it off and get a 24 hour moving permit as the DMV will probably want to look at it. Should be a piece of cake.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:11 AM   #23
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Okay I'm seeing a wide range of prices on vintage trilliums in different conditions. I've put a deposit on mine to be paid in full this weekend, but seller didn't disclose no title until after the handshake. Any thoughts on what a fair price should be for this trillium 4500 in said condition...see original pics. Keep in mind I'm in Southern California and everything seems more expensive here.
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Hmmmm, in your first post you were satisfied with the price...what happened????

That said... Fixers, especially for a newbie, usually ARE NOT a good way to save money on an FGRV. Unless you either know exactly what you are getting into, or can see it as a never ending hobby that you don't mind throwing time and money into, it's almost always better, and cheaper, to buy a FGRV that is nearly ready-to-go and needs little more than cosmetic repairs.

As I mentioned about two weeks ago, it can be very easy to throw about 40+ Ben Franklins into a fixer, especially if you have to have anything done by an outside shop @ $75-$125/hr, or replace a refrigerator or a furnace, or do any frame or suspension work.

From what you have said, I wouldn't be jumping in the car for a look-see unless I saw a asking price well south of $2000, and actual condition can push that down real fast.

If you have any thoughts whatsoever to buy-fix-sell, aka "Flip", this rig, you better be on very good terms with your wife before you start.... LOL
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:30 AM   #24
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Bob,

Not exactly buyers remorse. You know how when you buy something you keep looking....yeah I shouldn't do that. I guess my cause for concern is seeing a few for sale now at 2500 that look great, road ready, but are in remote areas on the other side of the US. So really it would cost me more than 1k to get it here. Am I wrong thinking these go for 4-7 fixed up.

No matter the condition I know myself and my wife and know that we would want a complete cosmetic makeover regardless the condition just to personalize it so thats out of the equation.

The starting asking price was 2k. I think I was first call and immediately he said he would negotiate on price. An hour later he calls back and says it is really dirty on the inside, mold, etc...and I might not even want it, but if I did he would really come down on the price. Fast forward to the next day when I drive to see it and suddenly he is back firm at 2k because of the overwhelming response from craiglist he now thinks it is a steal at 2k.

After an hour of hard work I finally knocked a couple hundred off, but not nearly like I was thinking, or hoping for. The shell looks fine beyond dirt and half the belly band sliding off...and like I said interior ism something I would always do. Still haven't checked any of the electrical.

Okay that was a mouth full...thoughts?
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:52 AM   #25
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I forgot to mention that the pics posted on Craig's that got so much attention were stock from google...exterior only but showed new tires and attached awning....no such luck. And they were of a 1300...after you all have stated it is actually a 4500.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:54 AM   #26
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Yep, those bargains that are usually far-far away seem to turn up right after buying one, but rest assured that your chances of getting one is slim to none as there are others already in line that are much closer. And many a buyer has driven 500+ miles to get that dream bargain only to find a POC at the end of the rainbow. One such POC was reported on here just about a week ago. Plus there is the cost of getting it home.

Uninitiated buyers might think that, at $2000, it was a steal, but those in the know about fix-up expenses are more apt to leave it to the others.

As you see, your price was right about where I would have been. And YES, almost any FGRV in decent condition in SoCal will sell for $5000+, especially in the late spring.

When we bought a Lil' BigFoot here in Riverside, we were the first to appear, negotiated what we thought was a fair, but not great, price, and left a cash deposit. The next day when we returned to pick it up the seller had gotten so many calls offering over his asking price, that he offered us 2X our deposit to back out.

BUT, when selling I have oft gotten those calls offering over asking price only to find that they are often from lowballers that are self described experts at picking your rig apart when they appear, and always with a handful of cash to wave in your face. Your seller might have gotten the same surprise.

Sounds like you are in good shape as soon as the title is sorted.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:47 PM   #27
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David,

After cleaning up the inside of my 4500 I came across what must have been every single piece of original info that came with the trailer including the original bill of sale from a dealer in Oregon, which should shed some light on the VIN numbers matching up with manufacturing year.

I found all the original manuals for the trailer itself, but also the heater, converter, fridge, and even a few for the porta-pottie including a funny little cartoon. If you think these are of interest let me know and perhaps they can make their way to the documents section...some might already be there.

Still dealing with DMV stuff, but so far so good.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:49 PM   #28
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By the way does anyone know if Trillium still sells the original keys...not blanks. The owner didnt have the keys upon purchase, so I am wondering how I might go about getting a new one other than paying a locksmith something obscene to come make a new one.
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