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Old 12-18-2018, 08:23 PM   #29
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What is the F150 like on hills?

My 2013 F-150 with the tiny 3.5L ecoboost had unbelievable power pulling hills, mountain upgrades etc. Not so much engine braking going down hill though. The engine reaches it's maximum torque at low 2,850 RPM. I had to order the truck to get the max cargo capacity package and the max towing package which I wanted because a Bigfoot 25 is kind of heavy. No Ford dealer ever stocks an F-150 with those two packages.
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:17 AM   #30
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We have the 3.5 ecoboost, max tow packages, 4wd and awd (standard in Lariat). No problems whatsoever as far as power, in fact too much power lulls you into going faster than the cooling system can take away the heat.. Not saying the cooling system is under designed, my foot can be over heavy.

The precaution is not to push it too hard as to cause overheating, two turbos generate a lot of heat under load. Just watch the temperature gauge and keep it under 238-240 degrees. Going down, tow/haul mode and brakes are good, but again just drive prudently.

I learned my lesson going west out of Denver over the Rockies on I-70, was moving along passing trucks and it went into limp mode as I pushed it too hard, the temp was rising and kicked out at 240. The computer will not let you overheat the engine.

Bottomline, plenty of power for climbing.
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Old 12-19-2018, 03:03 PM   #31
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and that s pulling a 25 ft??

Did you upgrade suspension at all or was that included in the "max" tow package?

What does this package include?

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Old 12-19-2018, 05:10 PM   #32
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25RQ

Wife and I have a 2018 25RQ. We have only been hot weather camping but we can tell the insulation is better. We turned our AC on in the FL keys while we went bike riding. When we returned about an hour later the AC was had the temp at 64 degrees in the camper and wasn't having any troubles keeping it there.

Only issue we had was the hot water heater controlller was burned out on delivery. We acquired a new one under warranty, I replaced it and no more worries so far.

As far as cold weather our next trip will only be in the 30 degree area. I did use the heater here lately when it was freezing without problems just to see if it worked. Once the propane heater heated the camper a small electric heater maintained it, use their power instead of my propane, yep I'm a tightwad.

So far we have traveled 3K miles plus the 2.7K the delivery had and no issues.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:23 PM   #33
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and that s pulling a 25 ft??

Did you upgrade suspension at all or was that included in the "max" tow package?

What does this package include?

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The heavy duty cargo package and the max tow package are two separate packages. It is better to have both on an F-150 for a heavier trailer.



Ford and other manufacturers have a section of their web site that gives particulars. They have a feature called "build a vehicle" where you can choose each option you want and each is described.



When my 2013 model was close to 100,000 miles (in 2017) I went back to the dealership and ask them to give me a price to order a new one with the exact same options (Lariat, Ecoboost, crew cab, 4WD, above packages etc.) They still had my truck in their computer. The new one stickered at $60,000. They wanted $54,000 less $21,500 for my trade. That succeeded in getting me to leave.


A few days later, doing an internet search, I spotted a new F-350 XLT single rear wheel, 4WD with the 6.2 liter gasoline V8 and several upgraded packages including a trailer tow package. It had a $52,000 sticker price. I wound up buying it for $44,000 and getting the $21,500 for my F-150.



I really, really like this F-350. It was $10,000 less money, when towing, it is smoother, handles better, more comfortable and less tiring to drive on long trips, feels safer AND a big plus: I was able to throw away my much hated equalizer hitch.



It gets about 9 mpg when towing and 14 when not towing. The F-150 got 10.5 mpg towing and 17 mpg when not towing. The wind direction affects those figures dramatically. Your results may vary.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:12 PM   #34
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Wife and I have a 2018 25RQ. We have only been hot weather camping but we can tell the insulation is better. We turned our AC on in the FL keys while we went bike riding. When we returned about an hour later the AC was had the temp at 64 degrees in the camper and wasn't having any troubles keeping it there.

Only issue we had was the hot water heater controlller was burned out on delivery. We acquired a new one under warranty, I replaced it and no more worries so far.

As far as cold weather our next trip will only be in the 30 degree area. I did use the heater here lately when it was freezing without problems just to see if it worked. Once the propane heater heated the camper a small electric heater maintained it, use their power instead of my propane, yep I'm a tightwad.

So far we have traveled 3K miles plus the 2.7K the delivery had and no issues.
What are you using for a tow vehicle?
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:39 PM   #35
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and that s pulling a 25 ft??

Did you upgrade suspension at all or was that included in the "max" tow package?

What does this package include?

Many thanks

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Yes, I pull a 25RQ.

I did no upgrades to the truck after I took delivery. I ordered it with "max" tow package to get the factory upgrades to frame, brakes, wiring, axles, hitches all made to tow up to 11,000 pounds. In the deal, the payload is 1820 pounds. also included was anti sway built into the truck, so if the trailer starts to sway the computer does something with the brakes and speed to stop it. I never have problems with sway, if I start to feel something, before I can react the system has it under control. I should read the book about it I guess.

Exact payload and towing capacity will depend on how you configure your truck. I ordered a supercab with 6.5' bed, FX4 which is 4 wheel drive with some offroad protections underneath, Lariat which includes an AWD option along with the 4wd, which I use a lot on gravel/dirt/wet roads and patchy snow and ice.

No matter what brand you buy, if you are towing 5000 pounds or more with a 1/2 pickup, my suggestion is to get a max tow package. If you plan to tow close the rated capacity, then the max payload is probably a good idea as it will give you a higher axle ratio and more beef in the frame.

I don't modify. If I would have to modify the F150 to get more capacity, I would go Super duty or 3/4 ton. A properly equipped from the factory F150 will handle a 25' Bigfoot just fine. I had to order mine as it is impossible to find a max tow on the lot.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:46 PM   #36
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...and furthermore, as Bruce H testified, a super duty or 3/4-1 ton will always (guess should never say always, but usually) handle a load or trailer better than a 1/2 ton.
Just depends on what you are comfortable with and what fits your needs.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:23 PM   #37
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I really, really like this F-350. It was $10,000 less money, when towing, it is smoother, handles better, more comfortable and less tiring to drive on long trips, feels safer AND a big plus: I was able to throw away my much hated equalizer hitch.
I have found pretty much the opposite to be true, Bruce. Until just over a year ago I have always had a Ford Super Duty since they came out with the Power Stroke engine. I bought my first F-150 3 years ago now, and love the more comfortable ride and better drivability way more that the F-350, prompting me to sell the latter. I often pull my dump trailer when loaded is often around 9,000 lbs without a WDH and it tows it like a charm.

I can't argue the better price or dumping the WDH though.

Not that I never would, but I would be hard pressed to go back to a Super Duty, as I much prefer the F-150. If/when I get a Bigfoot 25' I would at least give it a good go for a while.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:42 PM   #38
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I’ve driven , rode in, and towed with 1/2 , 3/4 & 1 ton trucks
I found there was little difference in handling , ride , comfort, steerring or braking .
We currently own a 1/2 ton Ram 1500 V8 which is adequate for towing our 17 ft Casita.
If we bought a Bigfoot trailer we would also be buying a new 3/4 / 1 ton truck
I would not even attempt to pull a 25 ft Bigfoot with any 1/2 ton truck .
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:46 AM   #39
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I’ve driven , rode in, and towed with 1/2 , 3/4 & 1 ton trucks
I found there was little difference in handling , ride , comfort, steerring or braking .
We currently own a 1/2 ton Ram 1500 V8 which is adequate for towing our 17 ft Casita.
If we bought a Bigfoot trailer we would also be buying a new 3/4 / 1 ton truck
I would not even attempt to pull a 25 ft Bigfoot with any 1/2 ton truck .

Well, if I was driving Dodges, I would get a 3/4 ton, too.
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Couldn't resist the opening.

If I were to describe the "PERFECT" tow vehicle for 7000 lbs or more it would probably be a Dodge diesel. In my case, I needed something that would fit my garage, was not wanting or needing diesel when a very adequate gasoline alternative was available (in my opinion the 3.5 has better drivability than the 6.2), and I liked all the bells and whistles I could get on the 2015 F150. IF it had been 2017, I would have had a hard look at a F250.

It boils down to what a person is comfortable with and meets their personal needs.

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Old 12-20-2018, 12:51 PM   #40
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As far as tow vehicles for trailer hauling, I went a different route. After downsizing from an 09' Bigfoot motor home and purchasing an 08' 30th Anniversary Bigfoot 25B25FB, I opted to not go the new vehicle high dollar route.

I hunt and fish and need a 4 wheel drive vehicle for those times during the year. Also needed something with power to tow a boat and another utility trailer I use for a UTV. While we had the motor home, I looked and found a pristine used 2002 Ford Excursion Limited Ultra with the old reliable 7.3 Powerstroke diesel. Had 126k on the odometer. Just broken in. Had all the options available and four rear captain seats as well which I preferred. As a reference, the cost new loaded in 2002 was right at $54k.


When we made the change from the motor home to trailer, I already had a vehicle that would serve us well. Almost 70% less than a brand new truck with everything I needed in an utility vehicle. It's a beast. No cat convertor on these rigs. Great economy and more power than I would ever need. Hills do not exist. Going downhill is a pleasure. In my opinion the perfect vehicle with as much inside storage as a pickup offers. In addition I can easily afford maintaining the Excursion compared to the expenditure of a new vehicle.

I only throw that out there as an alternative to someone debating on tow vehicles, costs and possible alternatives. Although 7.3 Excursions from 2000 to 2003 are going up in price getting harder to find in excellent shape, they are out there.
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As far as tow vehicles for trailer hauling, I went a different route. After downsizing from an 09' Bigfoot motor home and purchasing an 08' 30th Anniversary Bigfoot 25B25FB, I opted to not go the new vehicle high dollar route.

I hunt and fish and need a 4 wheel drive vehicle for those times during the year. Also needed something with power to tow a boat and another utility trailer I use for a UTV. While we had the motor home, I looked and found a pristine used 2002 Ford Excursion Limited Ultra with the old reliable 7.3 Powerstroke diesel. Had 126k on the odometer. Just broken in. Had all the options available and four rear captain seats as well which I preferred. As a reference, the cost new loaded in 2002 was right at $54k.


When we made the change from the motor home to trailer, I already had a vehicle that would serve us well. Almost 70% less than a brand new truck with everything I needed in an utility vehicle. It's a beast. No cat convertor on these rigs. Great economy and more power than I would ever need. Hills do not exist. Going downhill is a pleasure. In my opinion the perfect vehicle with as much inside storage as a pickup offers. In addition I can easily afford maintaining the Excursion compared to the expenditure of a new vehicle.

I only throw that out there as an alternative to someone debating on tow vehicles, costs and possible alternatives. Although 7.3 Excursions from 2000 to 2003 are going up in price getting harder to find in excellent shape, they are out there.
Try and find any 2000 vehicle up here in the Northern rust belt that’s in excellent shape
I see 7 and 8 year old trucks everyday that are full of rust holes
I have purchased several used vehicles in my day and all I did was purchase some one else’s problems . As I quickly approach 70 the idea of saving a few bucks buying a used vehicle has lost its’ luster
We currently own a 2014 vehicle with 60,000 miles on the odometer , I will never see it roll over to 70,000 miles . We are planing a long trip next year and we will be towing our trailer with a brand new truck but to each their own .
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Old 12-20-2018, 05:19 PM   #42
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Obviously where you're located they use plenty of roadway salt. Not where I'm at out in Washington state. Preventive maintenance is far more important than miles. When I was a young man, 100k miles was like way over the hill. Not so much today. However I never buy anything, car, boat, motor home used without spending an extra $100-$150 to have it checked out completely at a certified dealer. Has always been cheap insurance.


I also tend to keep rigs for quite awhile. That's sure way to maximize one's investment. Had a custom 1994 Ford Centurion 3/4 ton four door bronco that I bought after the original owner had put 30k on it. That was 1997. Sold it in 2017, mainly because I just wanted a diesel. Only had 118k on it. Mechanically perfect. I guess my point is, if one is diligent when it comes to service, vehicles are like the energizer bunny.....just keep going.

Interesting saying about 7.3 Power stokes. Everything around them will fall apart before that engine will. A friend of mine has a 2000 with a 7.3 that appears nearly new. Has almost 500k on it. Just recently replaced the tranny even though it was still ok.
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