No Vin, no title how to register in AZ

[megatrack]

Hi, I am new to the forum My name is AJ and I am from Arizona. I Just bought a Burro, My first one, been dreaming about it for a while. I will be pulling it with my H3, according to the seller it is a 1980 or so, and he said it was a kit built by family that was never registered, What is the best way to title this little thing in Arizona.

Thank you for helping.

[floyd]

Originally Posted by megatrack

Hi, I am new to the forum My name is AJ and I am from Arizona. I Just bought a Burro, My first one, been dreaming about it for a while. I will be pulling it with my H3, according to the seller it is a 1980 or so, and he said it was a kit built by family that was never registered, What is the best way to title this little thing in Arizona.

Thank you for helping.

Actually the kit should have come with a certificate of origin which would be used to procure a title. Lacking that, you should approach someone at the DMV and tell them the truth and ask for help, Go to an office some distance from your house the first time so that you can keep all options open!
A little judiciously applied obsequiousness might be wise when dealing with autocratic bureaucrats.
Look here...
http://www.azdot.gov/mvd/azwelcome.asp

[Gene Masse]

You need to go to you local state office that deals with it and ask. Usually it needs a statement of origin. There may be other possibilities. I've never heard of a "kit built" camper but anything is possible I guess. I hope you at least got a signed dated bill of sale.

[Herb Sutton]

Burro kits were trailers that were complete on the outside, but you had to assemble and install the inside yourself. They should have received a "Manufacturers Statement of Origin" which would be a printed form.

If they can't come up with it check magazines that are for antique car buffs. You may find ads for title procurement.

[floyd]

Kit built trailer...

[Donna D.]

This is a Burro kit:


Burro Kits
Here is what you get:

Basic 14 and 17 foot Widebody Kits include

• Double wall construction and laminated fiberglass coach
• Welded box steel and angle frame
• 5/8" fiberglass-coated floor (interior and exterior)
• Rubber torsion axle
• Two 185/80D13 wheels and tires
• 2" ball coupler and adjustable tongue mounted swivel jack with wheels
• Two safety chains
• Interior walls, furniture and cabinetry installed
• 4 tinted windows installed
• 1 Entrance door pre-hung with flush mounted lock, deluxe hinges, window and screen door
• Burro decals and label

Includes Wood Group, Appliance Group,
Electrical Group and Decorative Group.
Detailed assembly instructions included.
The standard Burro Kit requires approximately 40-80 hours of assembly time for an experienced assembler to complete and can be assembled with ordinary hand and power tools. Your actual
assembly time may vary.

[mary and bob]

Here in NY the "right answer" for registering a trailer that had no paperwork is "it's been in my possesion for more than a year". Or we can register one as "home made". If all else fails, there's a thread over on the T&TTT site about how you can easily register a trailer in Maine, even if you don't live there. It's by a PA resident, apparently PA is tough to deal with on paperwork, so he registered his in Maine and I believe a few others have done so too. That would give you a registration that could be used to get a AZ title later. Bob

[Bob Miller]

Hmmmm.... A 42 year old virgin??? This story has the makings of a movie. It's hard to believe that in 40+ years that it has never been registered somewhere, making it a bit suspect to me.
As mentioned, there are several states that don't title older trailers and getting transferrable registration there seems to be fairly easy. But be warned; I once bought an Airstream Bambi in VA with a "fresh" MS registration. When I traced the ownership through the Wally Byam (sp?) group it turned out that it had been stolen from a storage yard in VA and re-registered in MS by mail. The real owners didn't even know it was gone. And Yes, the perps were caught.
Again, be careful, Sheriff Joe has a free parking place and pink jump suits for trailer thieves in PHX.

[Herb Sutton]

Burro's "zombie" site can be viewed at burrotrailers.com The site doesn't know that the company folded a dozen years ago.

I suspect the webmaster keeps it up as a portfolio to show potential clients.

[Roy in TO]

Did it ever have plates or "tags"? Hard to believe it was never towed on the road. That paperwork might help.

[Panoz77]

Sometimes you just have to out think the DMV.

[Bill in Pittsburgh]

You will have to check with your DMV as the answer to your question will be dependent upon your states laws. Unfortunately, not every state handles this issue the same.

[Bob Miller]

Math Error
Oooops, I reread my last post on this and I now realize that this Burro is being presented as a 32 (not 42) year old virgin..... But my concerns about legal ownership still apply (as does it's untouched status.)

[Greg H]

You may have to register it in S. Dakota, I here you can register anything there.

[john warren]

generaly a bill of sale , or receipt. a weigh slip from a comercial scale, is all you need to title a trailer, though your state may require an inspection for safety, by a mechanic.

[Panoz77]

I purchased my CT from PA, in PA they apparently don't do VIN checks. When I bought my CT the title had a VIN number. When I went back to Ohio to register it, they do an inspection and VIN check, I did not previously realize that the VIN plate was blank where the VIN was supposed to be and Ohio would not register it at first. After several trips, I was finally able to register it with no problems, you do the math.

[DonDeutsch]

I had a friend who, after repeated attempts, gave up trying to register and non-titled trailer in AZ. I ended up registering it for him in MN as a home made. This worked out swell as years later I ended up buying the trailer, and it was already in my name.

[john warren]

how come you don;t call the department of motor vehicles in arizona and find out?

[Bob Miller]

RE: No VIN no Title
I hope that AJ doesn't have this same problem (and the one I posted re: a Bambi I bought)
Bought a Stolen Travel Trailer
As we all know, small travel trailer, boat and motorhome scams abound on CraigsList and elsewhere.
Basic rule: "If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is"

[Meghan]

Yep, NY didn't require title or registration when my trailer was last on the road. I did my homework and WAS smarter than DMV. I told them what the rules were and I finally got all the correct paperwork. #1 rule....do research, call several offices And demand answers. There is a way to do it, you just have to find it