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Old 12-12-2014, 07:15 PM   #15
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Hi Ian,
After reading some web pages, I do not think that will work with a "legal" trail bike as it is somewhat higher and may block the turn signals and headlights. I will have to research this further as it is an option that may be feasible.
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Old 12-12-2014, 07:21 PM   #16
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Many trailers have trouble supporting a simple bicycle from the rear bumper, so shop carefully. You need a stout trailer frame to start with; but too many trailer mfrs use frames just strong enough to support their trailer with minimal cargo, and no more.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #17
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Cracker Jack, I restore and ride vintage dirt bikes, and transported 2 to Colorado this summer, one on front, and one on the back of my 16' Scamp. a 260# 78 Suzuki across the tongue, and a 220# one on a hitch mounted rack on the back. Yes, absolutely it had to have a sway control, adjusted very tight, but was no problem even in west Kansas cross winds. Can send photos if you wish. That was the only time I hauled 2 at a time. Usually take my 200#er on the tongue. Can't turn real short, but otherwise don't know it is back there. Have air adjustable shocks on the Jeep to adjust ride height. And a ramp to roll the bike on by myself.

With 40 years towing experience, I can tell you you wouldn't even know the small motorcycle was on the back of a fifth wheel with tandem axles. As an aside, the only trailer I have not used a sway control, or equalizer hitch on, was a fifth wheel. For me, sway controls are "insurance" when pulling any bumper pull camper trailer, especially one with only one axle. They may pull great, but have a blowout on one side, and it's a different story.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:48 PM   #18
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Before using the front frame on a 16' SCAMP to carry a 200 lb load of any kind I would suggest looking back on the number of posts reporting front frame cracks and failures on that same model trailer. Might not be such a good idea without at least some frame reinforcement.
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Old 12-12-2014, 10:28 PM   #19
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Bike up front !

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In the old days we used to put the motorcycles on the front of the truck.
Hey! I'm with 'Steves plan'. I carried a Honda 60cc on the FRONT of my pick-up (with a truck-camper loaded, and sometimes a boat trailer behind.) for many years, and thousands of miles to both coasts and to the Gulf, several times - - - but, that was back in the 1960's and '70s. I had a local welder construct simple frames for each of the two wheels, and merely had to lift each end of the bike into it's frame. This was a common practice in those days - but, I haven't seen that method in use for quite some time. Perhaps there are newer 'laws' that prevent such a method ? I'd do it again !
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:09 AM   #20
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you could use a small electric winch mounted in your truck bed to pull your motorcycle up the ramp. then all you'd have to do is steady it when loading.
Or you could get one of these to lift the bike...

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Old 12-13-2014, 05:07 AM   #21
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but, I haven't seen that method in use for quite some time. Perhaps there are newer 'laws' that prevent such a method ? I'd do it again ![/QUOTE]


I live in an offroad-tourist area and I see front mounted cycles and bikes a number of times a year.
Got a cute story of a front mounted bike. Back in 1972, good friends of mine were traveling from CA to PA to visit family. They were towing a sticky and had one of the kids 50cc cycles mounted on the front of the tug. During a rain storm at night in Texas a semi passed them and clipped their left front fender merging back and they ended up in the median on their side. No one was hurt but the trailer was opened up like a tin can and the tug was only scatched up a bit.
Their son ran out and checked his motorcycle on the front and came back and told them that "everything was OK, my bike is fine". Kids, you got to love them.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:47 AM   #22
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Hello. I will be in the same dilemna someday. I checked CA law and here it states that it cannot project beyond the fenders on the street side and not more than 5" on the curb side. ( for any objects ) . The biggest obstacle I forsee is blocking the headlights. I have no idea what other state requirements are. unfortunately my Yamaha is going to be tuff to carry on the front. Back in the seventies I was able to walk one up a 2x6 into a bed mounted camper. Too tipsy to want to do that again.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:39 PM   #23
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I think that the loss in popularity of front mounting of M/C's may have more to do with blocking airflow through the a/c condenser and radiator than legal concerns.
Heaven forbid if some rough-tough trail bike riders couldn't keep their a/c working after a long ride, when temps soar above 72 degrees >>>> LOLOL>>>>
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:27 PM   #24
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Before using the front frame on a 16' SCAMP to carry a 200 lb load of any kind I would suggest looking back on the number of posts reporting front frame cracks and failures on that same model trailer. Might not be such a good idea without at least some frame reinforcement.
Have you seen a cracked frame on a Scamp trailer made in the last 20 Years? They have heavier tubing and bigger axles.
Older Scamp 13s had enough frame cracks to notice.
Still ...A motorcycle???
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:17 PM   #25
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I haven't "seen" any, I am referring to anecdotal reports that didn't seem to make mention of specific years and was suggesting that it's something to know about, especially if one was going to buy a used trailer.
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:00 PM   #26
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How about a bifold or trifold aluminum ramp? Nice and wide for you and the bike. The only downside is that they can be a little short so depending on the height of your box it could be a bit steep. Use a tie down to secure it to the truck hitch so it won't slip. You could also use a winch mounted to the front of the truck bed as suggested by Floyd to help pull it up.
Another benefit is that you can drive to a riding area and unload without having the trailer with you. I realize that your bike is a dual purpose but if there is any highway driving to get to a great area the truck might be more comfy.
I used to carry a small motocross bike, YZ85, on the back of a 17' Escape and while it was fine for short trips I would be reluctant to carry anything heavier or for longer distances. I now have a long box F350 with a HD Diamondback tonneau cover that carries 3 KTM's and a 450 quad!!! It's great to have lots of dry secure storage for "stuff" and I prefer it over the canopies I have had on other trucks.

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Old 12-13-2014, 06:56 PM   #27
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p { margin-bottom: 0.1in; line-height: 120%; } Thanks everyone for the your input. I think I am leaning towards some sort of winch or maybe even a block and tackle to pull the bike up a ramp. The maximum weight would be 250-275 lbs, probably a 250cc bike max. I will have to find a way of securing the bike for stability when winching the bike up and I think a tri-fold ramp may work the best as Paul brought up. The first section before the fold could be secured to the bed, the second section where the bike will be on an incline to the truck and the third section of ramp will close up on the back wheel of the bike so it won't slip backwards. The second ramp probably will need some sort of cross member to to put tie downs on so the bike won't tilt sideways. Once secure, winching it slowly should be a breeze. Getting it off I thought of an easy way. Just find a tree and use the winch or block and tackle and let the bike hang and drive the truck out from underneath it or just reversing the process to load. I hope!


From everything I have heard here, I really don't want to go messing around with the back of the TT due to the weight distribution and don't want to put it on the tongue because of the stress on the frame and the aerodynamics (loading will also still be an issue).


While the ramp system, that is being sold for $2.5K will work nicely, I think it is a way to expensive alternative. I would think I could have a local welder fabricate a ramp for $200-$300 range and I could pick up a small winch for less than $150. Or, I could just buy a Toy Hauler and sleep in oily smelling garage bay!


BUT I still want a fiberglass TT. Still looking for the right deal to come along. Looking for used Escape or Bigfoot, no less than 19 feet.


Thanks again Guys.


Jack


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P.S. Not really any decent trees in South or the Desert!!!
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:40 PM   #28
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Not to worry about the motorcycle on the front of the 16' Scamp. I first started doing this in 1971 on a Jayco pop up, and several trailers since. Never a problem. Most of the weight is actually on the front of the tongue and supported by hitch. But you have to be careful not to overload the hitch.
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