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Old 11-20-2014, 10:31 PM   #57
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We picked up our 16' deluxe this October, and having spent over 25 nights in it already, and towed it over 5,000 miles, here's some comments/suggestions about options:

1. Include every possible light fixture and electrical outlet, inside and outside
2. Get all cabinets offered. The cabinets over the big bed restrict head room while sitting at the big dinette, but since we leave it set up as a bed and use the side dinette for sitting around, it's not a huge problem, but I'd have appreciated a "heads up" from the factory.
3. I wish we had known about the heat strip option in the AC. I may have opted for that.
4. Not sure we'd go for the 3 speed in and out fan along with the AC. Those two , plus the furnace, make a lot of machinery dedicated to moving air around.
5. I really like the wheel fixture for the tongue jack. It makes it possible to jink the trailer around enough for hitching it up without too much precision backing. It's very convenient in my driveway.
6. The roof-mounted AC adds some weight up high, which I suspect contributes to a small sway problem. It also makes the trailer pretty high, which adds to ferry fare here in Washington State. Doing it again, I'd consider other options for the AC location.
7. During the factory tour, I noticed there was another unit getting "above the belly band" tail lights, and I was intrigued, especially after reading the remarks about visibility for high-hooded vehicles following too close.
8. The "D" shape door gasket also is intriguing, but the open cell gasket we got seems to work ok so far.
9. If there is an option for some sort of plastic toe kick cover on the door, I'd buy that in a second. The bottom foot of the rat fur on the door gets dirty, especially in wet climates.
10. We got the linoleum floor, and are delighted. It's much easier to keep clean and seems very attractive.
11. I don't know if they are options or not, but I added a small fire extinguisher and a grab bar in the door way; and my wife is making more colorful curtains as I type.

You are going to LOVE your new trailer!

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Old 11-21-2014, 12:00 AM   #58
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Hi Chuck, your sway concerns are a loading/tongue weight issue, it has nothing to do with the roof air. Get a bathroom scale to check the loaded TW. I got a new one off Ebay that goes to 450# for $25 as my TW is 364# ready for travel. No problems with sway, even in the sidewinds I've had to drive though.
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:17 AM   #59
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There's lots of discussion elsewhere about sway, some of which I've read. I understand about tongue weight, and I've started fiddling with it. I hope I'll be able to post some results, once I'm convinced I have the issue in hand,
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That whole subject might be something to discuss with the factory, as one is ordering a new trailer.

Cheers!

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Old 11-21-2014, 09:07 AM   #60
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Hi Beardrum,

Just a note on your item #4: as I understand it, the fan will work off the battery whereas the AC needs an electrical hookup. That would be a reason to get both.

Headroom with side cabinets - how tight is it? I've looked at a bunch of pictures and it looks like several inches of space when people are seated there.

As to the wheel on the jack - I'm considering ordering that but wondered if there is any issue with trailer movement when parked and unhitched? Even with wheel chocks I'm afraid that the tongue wheel could allow a minute amount of pivot when moving around the trailer. Thanks for any insight on this.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:10 AM   #61
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CG- a comment on quote #9 below. If I understood correct, Floyd states that Scamp is FINALLY putting something on their door at the bottom. But it's highly noticeable and just my thoughts here, casts a negative image on the trailer with the glaring dirty door bottom. I eliminated that during the first year of ownership!

Check out my fix that I've used for the past 4-1/2 yrs with zero problems. My door is still clean and looks new...the way it should in my opinion. And no, they offered NO solution when I purchased my 13' Scamp new in 2010.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/503516...7626474795019/

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We picked up our 16' deluxe this October, and having spent over 25 nights in it already, and towed it over 5,000 miles, here's some comments/suggestions about options:


9. If there is an option for some sort of plastic toe kick cover on the door, I'd buy that in a second. The bottom foot of the rat fur on the door gets dirty, especially in wet climates.

You are going to LOVE your new trailer!

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Old 11-21-2014, 10:12 AM   #62
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Hi Beardrum,

Just a note on your item #4: as I understand it, the fan will work off the battery whereas the AC needs an electrical hookup. That would be a reason to get both.

Headroom with side cabinets - how tight is it? I've looked at a bunch of pictures and it looks like several inches of space when people are seated there.

As to the wheel on the jack - I'm considering ordering that but wondered if there is any issue with trailer movement when parked and unhitched? Even with wheel chocks I'm afraid that the tongue wheel could allow a minute amount of pivot when moving around the trailer. Thanks for any insight on this.
We have side cabinets on our prefire Scamp13D. No problem even though our headroom is less than The 16 or the postfire 13
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:13 AM   #63
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Bob, I had the same concern about the wheel, but it went away when I saw the pad on the tongue jack, and Big Dave at the factory was handing me a wheel that will swap out with the pad by simply removing a clevis pin. You get both.

I'm 6'0" tall, and sitting at the dinette, my head brushes the bottom of the cabs, especially as I get in and out. If I were a half inch taller and if we were going to use the full dinette a lot, it would be a deal-breaker (for the side cabs), but with how we plan to use the trailer it's not too much of an issue.

You are correct about the fan - it's 12 volts and the AC requires 110. A consideration, indeed.

I gotta go load the trailer for a brief weekend trip - maybe I can get a photo of people sitting at the dinette. If so, I'll post it.

I also gotta say, all in all, we are loving the trailer.

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Old 11-21-2014, 10:25 AM   #64
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Darral, that kick plate is exactly what the doctor ordered ... you had to replace the pop rivets along the bottom, right? Or were you able to tuck the whole thing into the existing edge moulding?

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Old 11-21-2014, 10:52 AM   #65
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Thanks CG .

NO pop rivets removed what so ever! This is a bit detailed, but I used wax paper to trace the door trim area as seen in the picture. I then laid it on a piece of thin (apx 1/64) alum. flashing and allowed 1/8" or so around the trim area perimeter. Then, YES, I basically tucked the alum. down in behind the trim. In the bottom center, you will notice a small cutout to clear the two rivets.

One little trick here; you can press on the top of the alum in the contacting area of the ratfur. Hard to describe, but I used my finger to pull the ratfur (marine upholstery) and let it lap OVER the top of the alum as best I could. This helps hold the top of it in place AND well...sorta looks better .

Finally, I ran a small clear bead of 100% silicone rubber around the perimeter of the alum flashing where it contacts all the trim and the rubber guide. And as I stated in the previous post, over 4 yrs and no problem with it. You could use thin brass; I know another owner that has used thin plastic.... anything to protect the material from under-the-Scamp exposure.

Feel free to ask any more questions. I've enjoyed this mod and enjoy sharing it for anyone that finds it of use. HOPEFULLY....Scamp has truly resolved this blaring poor design!

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Darral, that kick plate is exactly what the doctor ordered ... you had to replace the pop rivets along the bottom, right? Or were you able to tuck the whole thing into the existing edge moulding?

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Old 11-21-2014, 11:08 AM   #66
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I agree having the 12v fan is a must if you ever camp without electrical hook ups.

Bob when using a wheel on the front jack you can also use a wheel dock for it. The dock keeps it the wheel from moving to much & prevents the wheel from sinking down into gravel or mud as well. It will also prevent the weight of the tongue from leaving a dent should you park your trailer on a nicely new paved driveway on a real hot day... let you guess how I know that! :-O I have a slightly different one than in the link that is more of a square with a flatter bottom, that allows me to move the wheel about 1/2"-1" with a real good push when hooking up assuming there are no other wheel or rear jacks etc in place preventing the trailer from moving.

Agree with the others that the sway issue mentioned is not something the factory has much control over. Its up to the party loading the trailer it to making sure they have the trailer level when hitched (if not level then slightly down of the hitch is much better than up on the hitch) and they have enough weight over the axle or a bit ahead of it. There is an online Caravan Stability game you can play that can help a lot in understanding where we place items in the trailer impacts its stability.

I have found that with our light weight trailers if your running it at 10% or less of the total axle weight on the tongue something as simple as an empty propane tank or putting water in the hot water tank or rear fresh water tanks, a bike on the rear hitch can change the stability on a light trailer quickly and not in a good way. Especially if you travel at freeway speeds and get a bit of a side wind! Thats not usually the case when dealing with heavier trailers - it takes more than that to result in a change to the % on the tongue. Personally have found that I need to run with a tongue weight over 10% on my trailer to achieve a stable tow in all travel conditions. The added weight on the tongue means I need not worry so much about whether any of the tanks are empty or full.

Weighing the trailer loaded is the first step in correcting a sway problem. If you don't know the loaded weight of the axle just weighing the tongue isn't really going to be much help. When weighing the tongue make sure the trailer is sitting on level ground and the tongue sitting at the same height it is when connected to the tow vehicle..... otherwise you will end up with inaccurate weights which will not help in correcting the sway issue.
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To fix the dirty door bottom on our 1990 Scamp 13', I applied the "D" weather strip around the door, and around the door opening, AND loosened the door threshold to slip a flat piece of aluminum stock under it, retightened it, and slipped another piece of the "D" weather strip along the leading edge of it.
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Darral, that kick plate is exactly what the doctor ordered ... you had to replace the pop rivets along the bottom, right? Or were you able to tuck the whole thing into the existing edge moulding?

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All new Scamps now come with a black plastic "kickplate" installed across the bottom inside of the door. This is a recent change in the last couple of months.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:34 AM   #69
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Just had a call from Jim at Scamp. Sometime in the next several months they are going to be offering some type of sound system as well as a fold-down TV.
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All new Scamps now come with a black plastic "kickplate" installed across the bottom inside of the door. This is a recent change in the last couple of months.
Floyd your The Man when it comes to all things new at Scamp!
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