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Old 05-02-2013, 08:37 PM   #155
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At some point cari and i are going with powder coating the stock steel wheels flat black. . . they will then closely match our van's wheels.

Though i ramble on with some possible solutions...i'm not going to make the call on what that will actually be since i'm a computer geek rather than a mechanic. I'll let Chandler make the call : )
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:41 PM   #156
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Is there more than one "Kumho 857", perhaps in sizes other than the 14's mentioned?
Yes, there are multiple sizes... the Tire Rack and KumhoUSA pages show three sizes, although all are 14".

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I ask because according to this link, the Kumho 857 14" radial is for trailer use only, which makes it pretty much an ST whether it says so on the sidewall or not.
Tire Rack is a reputable company, but they're only the retailer, not an authoritative source. They only market this tire for trailers. Kumho says it is:
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For commercial light truck, transporter, van and trailer.
George already covered this subject well. By coincidence, the suggested 185R14 size would be a near-stock replacement for the Mazda Rotary Engine Pickup owner who recently posted here about towing with his truck.

"ST" is a Tire & Rim Association standard designation. "Trailer use" and "ST" are certainly not the same thing; ST tires are only for trailers, but not all trailer tires are ST.

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It's also not a commercial tire, since it lacks the UTQG rating required for such a designation.
Where did that idea come from? UTQG ratings appear on some LT tires, but are generally for tires used on passenger cars, not those used on commercial vehicles.
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Humm, maybe moving the axle back about 1/2" would cure the problem or would that cause the tire to rub on the back of the wheel well...
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LOL...yup...moving the axle back a 1/2" would do the trick!
I just hope the solution is easier...that dexter axle is welded and incorporated into the frame design on the parkliner. And well, i'd sorta like to use my #035 this camping season!
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... on a Flexiride, certain parts such as the spindle can be replaced if broken. (Broken spindle is probably the most common torsion axle "failure".)
While I agree with Floyd that spindle failure is relatively rare (other than as caused by bearing failure due to poor installation or maintenance), I think replaceable components are still of value, because in most FlexiRide axles the rubber cartridge can be replaced... and that's what fails in Dexter Torflex axles after a quarter century or so.
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Although current trailer practice is typically to have zero offset, when Dexter themselves made trailer wheels (a manufacturing operation the sold which now operates under the "Dexstar" name) at least some had 1/2" offset (which means the wheel is 1/2" inboard from a zero-offset wheel). My Boler has what I believe to be the original 14" wheels, and they have 1/2" offset.
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LOL...yup...moving the axle back a 1/2" would do the trick!
I just hope the solution is easier...that dexter axle is welded and incorporated into the frame design on the parkliner. And well, i'd sorta like to use my #035 this camping season!
Well there is a solution and there is a workaround. I'd guess that you will get new wheels/tires...and hey, that will take care of the rubbing problem.
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LOL...yup...moving the axle back a 1/2" would do the trick!
I just hope the solution is easier...that dexter axle is welded and incorporated into the frame design on the parkliner.
I wonder why they weld the axle? Dexter makes a bracket that bolts to the axle and is then welded to the frame. This makes axle replacement much easier. While Dexter warrants the axle they make it clear that if the axle has been welded, it's at the customers expense to remove it. Raz
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i took some pictures in case my eyes were deceiving me...
here is the digital proof...they are welds rather than bolts on #035 axle:
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Hummm looks like the manufacture didn't considered what happens when the day comes that the trailer needs a new axle.
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This is the axle????? I've never seen a torsion axle welded to the cross members under the frame! Those I'm familiar with have an upcurve in the middle that supposedly flexes, or so I thought.




Here's the side shot- can sombody 'splain what's going on there...is this what's known as a "half-axle" setup? I think Dexter sells those.



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the upper shot showing the beam goes from one side of trailer to the other and the lower shot is a close up of where the beam has an angle bar with bolt holes (unused in PL design) and then you see the swing arm. There is only _one_ piece to assembly (ok lots of parts but not two half axles).
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Interesting

After reading all 12 pages of posts I've come to a suggest conclusion of the cause of the problem. In manufacturing there's this thing call "tolerance stack up". Studies are made on every part and specification to insure that the tolerances don't stack up and become a problem.
With changing axle and tire manufactures the tolerances have also increase, thus it's it more likely to run into tolerance stack up problems.
If my assumption is correct the only real fix is to replace the axle with one that's closer to design specifications. Anything else is a band-aid.

All you engineers should know what I'm talking about.
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i took some pictures in case my eyes were deceiving me...
here is the digital proof...they are welds rather than bolts on #035 axle:
Thanks very much for the photos - very informative.
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