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Old 05-03-2013, 05:26 PM   #183
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\Another thing. Don't Torqflex axles have rubber parts inside the tube? Welding to this tube would seem to have the potential of harming these rubber parts.

http://dexteraxle.com/i/u/6149609/f/...0_Lbs_1-12.pdf
Funny you mention that...when I was researching on the Dexter site earlier I found this under their FAQ:

TORFLEX - Can I weld to my Torflex axle or move the brackets?
No, the Torflex axles contain rubber cords to provide the suspension system and can be damaged by the heat generated from welding on the bracket or the tube.

Here is the link:
Dexter Axle - Trailer Axles and Running Gear Components - FAQ'S
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:49 PM   #184
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Agree 100%

...and i've got tire rub...but a fix is on the way per an email this afternoon. (tire swap, w/tires being dropped shipped to a tire center of our choice to do the work paid for by PL)
....hmmmm. Imagine that !

We'll be curious to hear what size and brand you get. Thanks for the update.

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Old 05-03-2013, 09:03 PM   #185
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Here is a related question for you all!

What is the best product to safely remove tire rubber from fiberglass?!

Elbow grease?!
You could use a marine product 3M Cleaner and wax - or if really bad 3M Restore and was a lot less elbow grease. About $15 but one bottle will do your whole trailer.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:55 PM   #186
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Most of our trailers have just the axle flange welded ( or brackets bolted to the flange welded) and the frame sits above the axle. Here the frame has cut outs that are welded to the center portion of the axle. I'm not sure how that effects the bow we typically see but I suspect the idea is to put the trailer body lower to the ground.
The frame that is cut out is just a floor support. They weld it to the axle tube to add support to the center of the floor. There are no rubber cords at the axle center, so no heat damage. The bow you see in the axle tube is camber added when the axle is made. I doubt the camber changes much in use.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:31 AM   #187
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I wonder why they weld the axle? Dexter makes a bracket that bolts to the axle and is then welded to the frame.
I think that's obvious: it saves a few dollars for the side mount brackets, and a few minutes of work. That's not necessarily bad, since design is always an exercise in compromise, and cost is important... although it is not the choice which I would prefer.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:37 AM   #188
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This may be irrelevant to the axle placement and tire clearance problem, but before the photo of the floor braces welded to the axle tube, there's one showing the axle brackets welded (which is okay, but not preferred) to the frame. In that one, the frame looks like two narrow box sections side-by-side - is that true, or am I not correctly interpreting what I am seeing?
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:49 AM   #189
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I think that's obvious: it saves a few dollars for the side mount brackets, and a few minutes of work. That's not necessarily bad, since design is always an exercise in compromise, and cost is important... although it is not the choice which I would prefer.
Perhaps not so obvious. Back when we were looking, I called Scamp. I asked the salesman if I could get the axle brackets so the axle could be bolted on. He went and checked. They (who ever they was) had never heard of the brackets but if I wanted to buy them and ship them to Scamp, they would see if they could use them. To this day I'm certain my brackets would have ended up on my trailer. Raz
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:23 PM   #190
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When we were at the scamp factory last month kent stated they used to weld on the dexter axles, but recently moved to a bracket mount
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When we were at the scamp factory last month kent stated they used to weld on the dexter axles, but recently moved to a bracket mount
If the axle fails under warranty, Dexter will not cover the removal of a welded axle and if the weld caused the failure, the warranty is void. As I recall, the brackets are cheap. It makes sense for all manufacturers to use them. It eliminates arguments.

First, jalousie windows, now axle brackets and a bigger bed? Good for Scamp. Raz
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:52 AM   #192
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If the axle fails under warranty, Dexter will not cover the removal of a welded axle and if the weld caused the failure, the warranty is void. As I recall, the brackets are cheap. It makes sense for all manufacturers to use them. It eliminates arguments.

First, jalousie windows, now axle brackets and a bigger bed? Good for Scamp. Raz
Bolting the axle on using brackets will also make axle replacement much easier when needed 'down-the-road'.

These little fiberglass trailers can easily and more often than not, outlive their axles!
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:12 PM   #193
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The angle on a Dexter axle arm is set at the factory and cannot be adjusted. To change it you have to replace it.

Looks to me that there just isn't enough room in the wheel well for the size of the tire installed.

But as the Spanke family motto goes "We may be wrong, but we're never in doubt."

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This would be true in most cases, but I have a friend who is a welder and I know, once he had your trailer in his home shop and jacked up he'd have that axle off in a few minutes. The guy is an ace with a 4-inch grinder where it would not be good to use a cutting torch.

Then he'd clamp the axle on with an appropriate spacer, measure things up to be sure the alignment was good and weld it all back together on, probably using a wire feed welder.

I'd think any good welding shop could do the same thing.

Unless I'm totally missing something, it surely isn't rocket science!

Going this route could also provide additional clearance to mount a larger tire should you desire. I am one who would prefer a larger wheel/size.

Since my TV takes 15 inch, six lug wheels, I'd press for a hub that would accommodate that size wheel and the 31-1050x15 tire size that I use on my pickup and Blazer. In addition to the more robust wheel/tire I'd also have the option of eliminating a spare tire for the trailer. The spare on the truck could come to the rescue in the event of a flat tire on either the truck or trailer.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:19 PM   #194
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The axle 2011 photos if anyone needs them to compare. Still welded.
Something going on with ParkLiner?
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:35 PM   #195
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What a great shot of the Flexiride- good digging, Ken!

I looked through this thread and didn't see any similar angle shots of the current Dexter on the Parkliner...sure would be interesting if someone could post one, just so we could see any differences.

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This would be true in most cases, but I have a friend who is a welder and I know, once he had your trailer in his home shop and jacked up he'd have that axle off in a few minutes. The guy is an ace with a 4-inch grinder where it would not be good to use a cutting torch.

Then he'd clamp the axle on with an appropriate spacer, measure things up to be sure the alignment was good and weld it all back together on, probably using a wire feed welder.

I'd think any good welding shop could do the same thing.

Unless I'm totally missing something, it surely isn't rocket science!

Going this route could also provide additional clearance to mount a larger tire should you desire. I am one who would prefer a larger wheel/size.

Since my TV takes 15 inch, six lug wheels, I'd press for a hub that would accommodate that size wheel and the 31-1050x15 tire size that I use on my pickup and Blazer. In addition to the more robust wheel/tire I'd also have the option of eliminating a spare tire for the trailer. The spare on the truck could come to the rescue in the event of a flat tire on either the truck or trailer.
You can't change the angle on a Dexter axle once it is made.

The picture that was presented didn't look the the tire fit well in the space provided. Had the factory installed spacers, this would not have been a thread.

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