Parkliner Tire Rub issues?

[Jared J]

Originally Posted by Birmingham1

I measured from the rear of the frame to the edge of the bracket for the axle. I thought it might just be a difference in the fiberglass in the wells, but no, it is actually that the axle is on at an angle.

You have to measure from the center of the ball to the end of the spindle. The rear frame rails don't mean anything.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Andy B

Some of the spacers can convert one bolt pattern to another if that is the limiting factor. If the tire guys can't find a 1/2" negative offset maybe they could find a 1.5" negative offset and you could use a 1" spacer (positive offset) to get the required 1/2" negative offset.

Adapters bolt on like a wheel, and have studs sticking out of them like a hub. Wheels with 35 mm to 50 mm offset are very common on modern vehicles, so while not simple (as Tom already noted), this can work.

My 1979 Boler still has its original wheels, which are 14" with 1/2" offset. This wheel is still available from Dexstar (the brand of wheel shown in an earlier post, and formerly made by Dexter), as shown in their catalog:

Part No. 017-114-xx
Rim Size 14x5.5JJ
Bolt Circle 5-4.5
Pilot Dia. 2.62
Stud Size 1/2” - 20 60*
Offset .50 In
Capacity & PSI 1865@50 psi

I assume the "xx" is a colour code.

If a wheel change to move the tire a bit inward is the fix, the wheel should be available which will work without an adapter. That still seems like a finicky tweak to cover up a design with marginal clearance, and as we have discovered in this discussion, there are more significant issues with axle installation in at least some of these trailers.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Jared J

You have to measure from the center of the ball to the end of the spindle. The rear frame rails don't mean anything.

True. Of course, I would have to wonder about someone who builds a frame 1/2" out of square, even if they mount the axle on it square to the coupler.

[honda03842]

A very interesting 4 to 5 month thread. More interesting is Parkliner's response.

[Jared J]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

True. Of course, I would have to wonder about someone who builds a frame 1/2" out of square, even if they mount the axle on it square to the coupler.

Frame could still be "square", just a longer frame rail on one side. I guaranteed my old scamp is a little off. I had a hell of a time trying to locate my new axle, nothing came to the same point. I finally leveled it, dropped a plumb bob from the kingpin, and went from there.

[cpaharley2008]

Originally Posted by honda03842

A very interesting 4 to 5 month thread. More interesting is Parkliner's response.

"or lack there of"

[Thomas G.]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

"or lack there of"

It is not a total loss. I bookmarked the Marisa Miller homepage.

[Birmingham1]

When I get a dry day, I will take the measurement as you have indicated. I am very curious to know if it is on straight or not.

Originally Posted by Jared J

You have to measure from the center of the ball to the end of the spindle. The rear frame rails don't mean anything.

[frank_a]

I was a bit put out after emailing twice about this tire rub issue and not getting a reply. I got one tonight and it's only fair to report it. Here it is:

Frank,

A few months back we had a collection of customers contact us, and report that their tires were rubbing the inside of the wheel well. We spent days trouble shooting to figure out what the issue was. It turned out that the tire manufacturer we were using was sending us different sized tires. We have since switched to a very good tire manufacturer, and began to bolt the axle as opposed to welding it. As for the customers, the warranty process went as follows: Send in your pictures. Take your ParkLiner to the nearest tire shop. We will ship them the correct tires, and then cover the costs. All is well with the tires now, and petty issues such as that pop up with a company starting out. Concerning responses on the forum- we do our best to check the forum daily, and email or call the individual with the issue or question. Sometimes customer service is not our strong suit, as it gets so busy here and picking up the phone can't always be first priority, but we always respond.

Thanks Frank!

Best, Cameron

[cpaharley2008]

And there you have it, a responsible reply that should take care of some naysayers and relieve some trepidation with Parkliner. Took awhile, but better late than never.

[War Eagle]

That's crazy about the tires being so variable in size, but it's great if switching to a new tire manufacturer fixes the problem! And electing to start bolting the axle should resolve several other concerns that have been raised earlier in this thread. I'm a firm believer in Ronald Reagan's philosophy of "Trust, but verify.", and I hope that new owners in the near future can verify to the rest of us that ParkLiner has indeed earned the trust of prospective buyers again. If so, it will soon be back on the top of our wish list!

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by frank_a

It turned out that the tire manufacturer we were using was sending us different sized tires. We have since switched to a very good tire manufacturer...

If the tire manufacturer was sending a size other than that ordered, they shouldn't have made it into inventory, let alone gone on a trailer.

If we're talking about size variation within the same nominal size, what is the owner supposed to do when they need replacements? It seems like there just isn't enough margin for reasonably expected variations.

Originally Posted by frank_a

... and began to bolt the axle as opposed to welding it.

Okay, but is the axle 2" lower, or if not how are those longitudinal floor supports handled, as they intersect with the axle?

[Ice-breaker]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

If the tire manufacturer was sending a size other than that ordered, they shouldn't have made it into inventory, let alone gone on a trailer.

If we're talking about size variation within the same nominal size, what is the owner supposed to do when they need replacements? It seems like there just isn't enough margin for reasonably expected variations.


Okay, but is the axle 2" lower, or if not how are those longitudinal floor supports handled, as they intersect with the axle?

Another question I would want resolved is whether 5 or 10 yrs down the road when your axle begins to wear and some sagging occurs (happens to all of us), will the tire rub issue reappear at that time? I feel the same as Brian when he said, "it seems like there isn't enough margin for reasonably expected variations".

[frank_a]

I almost hesitate to say this, but I did email with questions like that (and more) after Cameron got back to me. I have learned it takes a while for responses, so no big deal. We are NOT made of money, and can't order anything today (or tomorrow, or...), let alone a ParkLiner, till we sell our sticky, Subaru Outback and GMC.

Frank

[Ken C]

margin for reasonably expected variations...
coun't me as number 3 wondering the same thing.

[Briantb]

Originally Posted by frank_a

..... . All is well with the tires now, and petty issues such as that pop up with a company starting out. Concerning responses on the forum- we do our best to check the forum daily, and email or call the individual with the issue or question. Sometimes customer service is not our strong suit, as it gets so busy here and picking up the phone can't always be first priority, but we always respond.

Thanks Frank!

Best, Cameron

I believe somewhere back in these messages someones trailer was not fixed with new tires.. I could be wrong

I expect it was a poor choice of words but to describe problems as petty???

[frank_a]

Originally Posted by Briantb

I believe somewhere back in these messages someones trailer was not fixed with new tires.. I could be wrong

I expect it was a poor choice of words but to describe problems as petty???

Yes, somewhere back in these messages (maybe post #215?), Thom had some problems. I don't know if they've been resolved, as I don't work for ParkLiner. As to your other comment, yes, I would imagine it was a poor choice of words. Good catch!

Frank

[GPJ]

Originally Posted by frank_a

Yes, somewhere back in these messages (maybe post #215?), Thom had some problems. I don't know if they've been resolved, as I don't work for ParkLiner. As to your other comment, yes, I would imagine it was a poor choice of words. Good catch!

Frank

Thom's post #215 dated only about a week ago (Aug 16) noted....
"I have sent both Chandler and Cameron of Parkliner an update stating the replacement tires are still causing tire rub on the interior face of wheel wells. On my unit the curb side seems to be showing more wear for whatever reason. The rub patch is only about 2" x 3" or 4" but it is still rubbing. the 185's have maybe 900 or so miles on them?

At this point i've pretty much decided that it is a lost cause..."

So Thom went through the warranty process and the replacement tires he received from Parkliner still rub (although not as much). To my mind the problem has not been resolved.

[frank_a]

I guess not everyone is reading these threads. Cameron said "As for the customers, the warranty process went as follows: Send in your pictures. Take your ParkLiner to the nearest tire shop. We will ship them the correct tires, and then cover the costs."

So to my mind, the issue is resolved.

All my best to you.

Frank

[Glenn Baglo]

It's your money.