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Old 10-15-2013, 12:06 PM   #435
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Last week I e-mailed Parkliner and asked about them and was e-mailed back with in 48 hrs. I was told everything I asked.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:25 PM   #436
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I made my last call to ParkLiner today. I told them if they do not return my call within 24 hours I will be filing with the BBB and the North Carolina Consumer Protection and anywhere else I can complain about them. I feel 5 months with no response back from them is more then patient...they havent built hundreds of units, they may have built 50?

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Deryk what puzzles me just a bit about your (and other owners) situation is I assume that there is some sort of electrical inspection that the PL trailers need to pass as most other manufactures under go. The question is who does those inspection and what agency assuming their is one oversees it? Is there a sticker on your trailer that may give you some clue as to who it is? Have you check the state rules regarding trailer manufacturers in the state the PL is built?

Seems to me that contacting the agency responsible for the inspection of the trailers may result in a faster resolution of the issue as they after all passed yours and other trailers through the system - even though the batteries were installed incorrectly. Might get a faster resolution to the problem through them than perhaps a Consumer Protection agency.... then again maybe not!
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:46 PM   #437
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Carol...hmm didn't notice any inspection sticker but will check this weekend.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:00 PM   #438
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Carol...hmm didn't notice any inspection sticker but will check this weekend.
Trailer inspection at the manufacturer must be a Canadian thing.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:42 PM   #439
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Trailer inspection at the manufacturer must be a Canadian thing.
Byron that may be but I seem to recall seeing compliance stickers on RV's coming out of the US as well.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:49 PM   #440
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RVIA is a sticker applied to those US units that belong to the trade association, not required. Approximately 98% of US manufacturers belong, I do not think Parkliner nor LilSnoozy and possibly EggCamper belong as of yet, as they grow they may have to. Here is a list of standards that members are suppose to adhere to
http://www.rvia.org/?ESID=Standards
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:08 PM   #441
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Interesting that Betty Lou was told that the mold will not change and PL has decided to bolt the axles onto the frames. We just passed about 5,000 miles on our trailer, and I am happy to report that we have not experienced any tire rub with our trailer. Our axle is welded to the frame, so I have concluded that the frame builder hit the dimensions just right when building our trailer frame; so when the shell was added, everything lined up perfectly. By bolting the axles onto the frame, they should be able to adjust the axle position slightly once the shell is in place to get the correct alignment and position. Our trailer appears to have room for suspension travel (and some long term sag) without future rubbing issues as well. I have not tested the limits by jumping any curbs or diving into potholes, but we all hit at least some of the bumps going down the road.
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:18 PM   #442
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We just passed about 5,000 miles on our trailer, and I am happy to report that we have not experienced any tire rub with our trailer. Our axle is welded to the frame, so I have concluded that the frame builder hit the dimensions just right when building our trailer frame; so when the shell was added, everything lined up perfectly.
Sadly it would seem that the change in how the axle is install hasnt fully corrected the problem. See the thread today Our New Parkliner. The party picked up their PL in September and has noted signs of tire rubbing in the well wheel. Sad to hear.
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RVIA is a sticker applied to those US units that belong to the trade association, not required. Approximately 98% of US manufacturers belong, I do not think Parkliner nor LilSnoozy and possibly EggCamper belong as of yet, as they grow they may have to. Here is a list of standards that members are suppose to adhere to
The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: Standards
So Jim are you saying that the States or Feds themselves dont have any regulations in regards to electrical specifications etc that the trailers must be built to? No inspection required?
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If I remember correctly, the PL owners who had battery venting issues both indicated that they were plugged into shore power and charging a pair of deeply discharged batteries while sleeping.

The battery location by itself is not a problem; there have been several references of other trailer manufacturers and boat manufacturers that locate the house battery inside the cabin. The PD-4045 location by itself is also not a problem. It's the combination of these items in the same compartment that is the source of this problem.

When the lid to the battery/converter/pump/tank compartment is closed, and the cushions are in place, and you put a person or two sleeping on the cushions, it is very difficult for heat to escape this compartment. With two batteries drawing rated current from the PD-4045, the converter is going to start running hot. The cooling fan for the PD unit uses cabin air for cooling (front-in and front-out), so there is no forced air into the compartment. The PD unit chassis gets very hot at rated load, so it begins warming up the battery compartment. After a couple of hours, the batteries are running hot, so they begin to draw more current. The PD unit accommodates the higher current demand, its temperature rises, and the compartment gets hotter. Since the PD unit continues to get its cooling air from the cabin side, it can tolerate a much higher ambient temperature around its chassis. The compartment continues to warm, the batteries eventually get too hot, the electrolyte begins to boil, and the battery vents relieve the pressure.

All of this can be avoided if this compartment is properly ventilated and/or the charger current is adjusted to compensate for high ambient conditions. The easiest solution is to get some air to flow through the compartment so the heat does not get trapped and cause the batteries to overheat. We went this route versus moving the batteries out front.
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So what did you do?
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So what did you do?
Almost all of our camping has been in State Parks with Water and Electric hookups; so I bought this pair of expensive AGM batteries, and we have barely used them.

I top off the batteries at home before we travel, keeping the lid to the compartment cracked to let the heat escape.

If I ever decide what mod I want to actually deploy for a permanent fix, I will be glad to share it with the group.
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If I ever decide what mod I want to actually deploy for a permanent fix, I will be glad to share it with the group.
Have you read the battery manufacturer representatives suggestion as to what was wrong with PL install and their recommendations for correct installation of their batteries to be operated safely under all conditions? It can be found under the Smoking Batteries Thread Post #156.
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Thanks for the reference, Carol. Yes, I participated in that thread as well. Jim's post was helpful. I used his response and that of some other resources to determine the best solution for us.

Jim stated that batteries should not be located in an "enclosed space." In other words, never sit in an air-tight box with a charging battery.

The volume of air in any of these trailers is so small that a release of any gaseous contaminant can become dangerous in a very short amount of time without proper ventilation. Thus, we have some form of ventilation air moving through our trailer at all times. This serves the purposes of keeping the air fresh for our comfort and health, heating or cooling for comfort, and preventing heat buildup (or buildup of vented gases) in the battery compartment.

For indoor environments occupied by people, regarding Indoor Air Quality and contaminant levels: it is said that "the solution to pollution is dilution." That's how we roll
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