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Old 10-29-2014, 01:07 PM   #29
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Chandler at ParkLiner got back to me. These are custom made tanks, not available off-the-shelf. They take about a month to get once ordered. I asked how much one would cost and have not heard back.

I'm proceeding figuring I will not be able to just buy a new one and simply just attach it.

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Old 10-29-2014, 01:18 PM   #30
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Can you retrofit with an off the shelf tank. You would probably lose some volume though. You would think if that's how they are building the trailers with a custom made tank that they would have some on hand for future builds. I doubt they purchase one at a time. Probably don't want to give one up.
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Old 10-29-2014, 01:37 PM   #31
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Maybe folks, don't know yet. I was looking for a flat L shaped tank and just couldn't find even one. Really all I need is something that fits the length and width.

I am sure they only get one at a time, as they need them. They don't have any trailers ready to sell, they custom build them one at a time, and cash flow being what it is, I don't doubt they order them as they need them. But really, who knows?

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Can you retrofit with an off the shelf tank. You would probably lose some volume though. You would think if that's how they are building the trailers with a custom made tank that they would have some on hand for future builds. I doubt they purchase one at a time. Probably don't want to give one up.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:19 PM   #32
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I think while I have the tank out, good and clean and dry, this is what I can use to fix it: Holding Tank Adhesive 1 lb Black
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:27 PM   #33
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Good find. Looks like it might do the job.
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Old 10-29-2014, 03:57 PM   #34
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That should do it but you still have to cut out the cold joint and reset a new piece. just patching over and hoping to get some in the crack will come back and bite you later. Now that its out how about some good pictures of the bad spot.
Keep at it and you will come out better than what you bought.
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you still have to cut out the cold joint and reset a new piece.
What do you mean by that Steve? Take it apart and re-set it? It's integral to the tank, not something attached, other than I assume at whatever factory made it. I was thinking to just clean it down to ABS and use this glue to seal completely around the seam.

I'll see if I can get some better pics.

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Old 10-29-2014, 05:01 PM   #36
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Pics, all around...









My attempt at sealing this seam with a 2 part epoxy failed miserably. I'll be taking my time removing all the white stuff and get down to black ABS so I can then use an ABS glue/filler and seal this baby up. I also have work to do inside the trailer where I cut the two interior fittings. That needs to be done while I'm working on the tank.

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Now I see the real issue. I thought it was a cold joint where the inserted pipe wasn't glued properly between the tank and the stack of fittings. It looks to me that it is cracked through the wall of the tank and not between the fittings. Its just cracked next to the fittings at the thinnest area of the tank. When they vacuum form plastic sheets they get stretched thinner in any corners. Add 10 lbs of piping and valves with leverage and this can easily happen.

I think you are going about it the right way with the shaved ABS and solvent to make a mash and form reinforcement. If this was my tank I would clean off the previous repair and wipe the surface with PVC primer available at the hardware store. This removes the releasing agents in the plastic. Now make your mash and fill in and fair the joint. I would let this set up good and solid. Then take some fiberglass cloth and cut it up for some long fibers about an inch long or so and make another batch of ABS mash with this fiber mixed in. Apply this reinforced mash over the repaired joint and spread it over a much wider area to get the load spread out several inches with fiber reinforcement. When you finally get the tank back in and the tank mounted see if you can add a support from the drain valve to the body of the trailer so it isn't bouncing down the road levering against the tank trying to crack it again.

This is my suggestion and I hope your repair how ever you choose to proceed goes well. Its Abs and solvent welds really good and should come out much better than the factory intended. It sucks to be a custom made tank as others down the road are going to have this issue and not using a standard tank really stinks.
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Yes, I guess I didn't get my point across very well. It is not a joint, other than what is formed in the manufacturing process for the 3" outlet. It's just poor connection. Also, the support for the drain valve portion was not anything other than just a support. It did not pull the outlet set-up against the bottom of the trailer, which is what I believe caused the flex problem initially. So, poorly made product and lack of factory attention to proper support.

I like your idea for fixing it Steve, and will more or less follow along with the plan you have laid out. Thanks!

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Here's my problem folks, and I would have never seen it if I had not taken the tank off. It's not only cracked around a (very thin material) seam, the crack extends up into the side of the tank. I only found it cleaning most the epoxy off tonight. You can see the crack in this pic, and see it running up into the tank...



Next step is sanding it till all I have is black to work with. I had to be real careful getting the epoxy off so as not to make a bad situation worse! So I'll pick up some acetone this weekend, and have ordered the ABS glue I need. This baby will be sealed and solid as a rock when I'm done.

Never did hear back from Chandler at ParkLiner about a replacement. Oh well.

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Sadly always something....well reinforce it well with the fiberglass cloth like steve suggested and support that area with metal strapping so it wont wiggle around and loosen up. Best of Luck!
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Sadly always something....well reinforce it well with the fiberglass cloth like steve suggested and support that area with metal strapping so it wont wiggle around and loosen up. Best of Luck!
I'm sure we both have the same strapping Deryk. Mine did not hold the drain pipe tight against the body. Does yours?

I have a plan for this repair forming in my head. I'll keep y'all posted. More cleaning to do, and inside fittings replacement or modification.

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Frank; Is it possible to install a mission coupling between the tank and the waste piping to lessen the transfer of stress and vibration to the tank
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