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Old 11-05-2014, 05:58 AM   #85
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About all I have left to get is a foot of 1-1/2" ABS pipe. I'll check on that today with an RV place close by and a True Value across the Hudson that carries ABS. My shredded ABS to make glue out of should be here tomorrow. I picked up a gallon of acetone yesterday to mix with the shredded ABS, per instructions, to make ABS glue. Gee, this is starting to get exciting...

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Old 11-07-2014, 05:50 AM   #86
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I have a few more places to try today to find 6" (or a foot) of 1-1/2" ABS pipe. I probably need 3", but want to be err on the safe side. If I can't find it, I guess it's more expense - buying primer and adhesive to glue (white!) PVC to ABS.

Tried two RV places yesterday near where I work & live, nothing. Will try a few RV places in Albany today, see what happens.

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Old 11-07-2014, 12:06 PM   #87
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I have a few more places to try today to find 6" (or a foot) of 1-1/2" ABS pipe. I probably need 3", but want to be err on the safe side. If I can't find it, I guess it's more expense - buying primer and adhesive to glue (white!) PVC to ABS.

Tried two RV places yesterday near where I work & live, nothing. Will try a few RV places in Albany today, see what happens.

Sheesh.

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So have to ask. What are the RV shops you approached using to repair dump pipes?

Is it not something your could also switch to using on your trailer? Just think that if you have to replace something in the future it may save some frustration if you don't have to search high and low for the parts to do it.
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So have to ask. What are the RV shops you approached using to repair dump pipes?

Is it not something your could also switch to using on your trailer? Just think that if you have to replace something in the future it may save some frustration if you don't have to search high and low for the parts to do it.
First of all, I don't ask what they're using to repair dump pipes. Maybe I should. First place had 1-1/4" and 2" pipe, no 1-1/2", but quite a few ABS fittings in a variety of sizes. Second place had a parts counter, guy went looking, couldn't find any.

I believe I can use PVC. I need to buy some of that and see if it will work. If it does, I need to buy special primer and cement for one 2 or 3" piece.

I'm sorry to complain, but it's just irritating.

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[QUOTE=frank_a;491135

I'm sorry to complain, but it's just irritating.

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No problem, I can appreciate your frustration.

Once you get it fixed up due to what clearly has been your ongoing/building frustration level with the trailer, I am half expecting you to post it for sale!
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I do not expect to sell it unless I win the lottery and can buy a big 5th wheel Escape! We do love the design of this trailer we own. Now I just need to get the Escape to recognize the trailer brakes...

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No problem, I can appreciate your frustration.

Once you get it fixed up due to what clearly has been your ongoing/building frustration level with the trailer, I am half expecting you to post it for sale!
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:32 PM   #91
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Gee, maybe I should sell it and get one of these for $17,570.25:

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Old 11-07-2014, 07:27 PM   #92
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Where is currently BTW a VERY clean 2010 5.0 Escape for sale here in BC going for only US$1500 more than that sticky!! Yup I know its a long way from you but it looks like the trailer is in one really big storage place perhaps you could make a deal to leave it there until the spring.

Edit: Forgot the link to the ad 2010 Escape 5.0 5th Wheel.
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Old 11-08-2014, 02:20 PM   #93
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My brother & sister-in-law winter in Yuma AZ, and the Home Depot there has a 2' piece of 1-1/2" ABS pipe in stock for $2.95. Problem solved!

That's the same piece I found online, but am not allowed to purchase from this location!

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I mixed up my ground ABS with acetone almost 3 hours ago and it's not ready yet. ABS is still dissolving. Other than that, I am ready to patch the tank. Everything has been filed and ground down best I can, end of the crack that goes up into the tank body has had a hole drilled at the very end, wiped down with acetone (per directions). Will have blow-by-blow pics when it's done, but it may very well be a number of days.

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Repaired!

Okay, tank repair is done. As promised, blow by blow pics.

First was filing the circular crack and grinding the crack that came off the circular crack up into the tank, then drilling a hole at the end of the crack to relieve stress (not mine - the tank's!):



Next was cleaning the area to be repaired with acetone, making it a shiny black:



I did all that stuff yesterday. My ABS had not yet completely dissolved in the acetone even by 9 last night. But it had this morning, and was the consistency of pancake batter, which was my goal (I just got lucky I guess!). Using a small parts cleaning brush, I applied the first layer:



While it was still wet, I applied fiberglass cloth that I had already cut to size. A small piece to cover the crack that went up into the tank, and a long 1" wide one that completely wrapped around the seam that had cracked. I put that on the sticky glue, then used my parts brush to wet it down, while pushing it into the crack area all around the seam. When done, I made sure to also wet the cloth out to it's edges, sealing it to the ABS.



To make the repair more effective, I supported the relatively heavy extension with a small piece of wood. I did this before applying the glue as well, as the weight of the valved part was pulling the crack open to a small degree.



Next is a quick leak test, then getting it ready to re-install. More pics soon (I hope!).

By the way, now that I've done this, I would never again try applying any two part epoxy to a crack in an ABS tank. This could also be done fairly easy on an installed tank.

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Looks good! So how long for the mix to harden?
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Thanks Deryk! Took almost 24 hours for the ABS to dissolve making the glue, then took maybe 10 minutes for it to solidify rock hard once I dabbed it on.

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Deryk, I think the dry time is affected by how wet the glue is. Mine was not real wet, pretty much like pancake batter consistency. It's really amazing how it pretty much just becomes part of the tank!

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