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Old 11-05-2012, 02:09 PM   #15
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Are we sure that the door shape itself isn't the culprit?

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If the door is off, and laid on a flat surface, does the upper edge form an unbroken "fit" to the surface it lies on?
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:17 PM   #16
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From your photos, it appears to me that lack of a curve on the upper portion of the door may be part of the problem. The way it looks is that the existing gap between the top of the door and the frame is wide open and just waiting for water to enter (hence all of the foam padding that your PO put in place to try to stop it from leaking). I would look into possible need for putting a "curve" back into the top of the door in addition to any tweaks necessary for the roof line. Also, I think I saw on this site relative to a Burro or Uhaul rebuild that the owners on that project constructed an "eyebrow" out of fibreglass over top of the door to help channel water around the top of the door and down on either side. Since you are obviously doing fibreglass work anyway, this would be a very worthwhile something to look into.
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Thanks Dave,

I like the idea of an eyebrow. The thought had occurred to me. There is little doubt that the door is miss-shaped and that will have to be addressed. But first the "dip", then the door.

I took a straight edge out to the camper again today and started about 12 inches towards the center of the roof just above the door. Moving down toward the door opening about a half inch at a time with the straight edge. When the separation began to appear I scribed a pencil line the length of the gap. Then down another half inch scribed another line the length of that gap and so on. By the time I made my way to the top of the door frame It was clear exactly where the low spot was. It includes a section about 8 inches above the door on the hinge side and gradually works its way across to the other side of the door. This is the entire repair done by PO.

I will search for the thread that talks about the "eyebrow", thanks for your input.

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Old 11-05-2012, 08:16 PM   #18
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Yes Francesca, the curve is missing from the upper part of the door. It will have to be reshaped. Now that there is clarity on the other issue this doesn't seem so daunting.

Thank you for you input.

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Yes Francesca, the curve is missing from the upper part of the door. It will have to be reshaped. Now that there is clarity on the other issue this doesn't seem so daunting.

Thank you for you input.

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Old 11-06-2012, 06:54 AM   #20
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Looking at your new pics I would say you need to reform the curve at the top of the door. That looks like a bigger problem then the little bit of curve in the body above the door. Are you sure that is the original door? Looks like you will have to do a door slice to get the curve back.
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Rick,

I don't think it is the original door. because of the shape and because the original LB door had a window. In this door there is no evidence that there was ever a window.
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Thank you to all who have given your ideas and time to help me work through this,
I agree with all that the door needs work. Lots of work. After tearing my little Ozzy completely down to the ground and putting him back together, I don't want to leave anything that is fixable undone. OK, call me obsessive - I do have trouble striking a happy balance. After my little "scribing" experiment, I feel more comfortable with what needs to be done to the body, just build it up to remove the dent. Then the door will have to be overhauled.

I will update my progress.
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Went outside today to spend the day working on the Bug. Started to get the door ready to start experimenting on and found that somebody already beat me to it. My door is wood! Could be some of the reason that it has curled out the way that it has. The grain runs up and down. I wondered if they were supposed to be that heavy.

If I can scarf it and put the correct curve in it can I use if as a form for a new fiberglass door. if so, how do I deep the new fiberglass from sticking to the old door? And, since the outside will be up what are my chances of getting a nice smooth look on the outside of the door?
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It won't serve as a mold- the resulting door would be too big...what you'd actually have would really just be a new "mold" from which you might be able to cast a new door. I think your chance of successfully doing so with such an imperfect beginning form is very small, however.

I'd suggest talking to a boatbuilder about the project...meanwhile, there are many videos on Youtube about building with fiberglass- well worth checking them out!

Here's a link to one about mold-making: Making A Fibreglass Mould - YouTube


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Went outside today to spend the day working on the Bug. Started to get the door ready to start experimenting on and found that somebody already beat me to it. My door is wood!
Really? Gosh thats a new one! or is it not just wood on the inside as most are???
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nope, just two pieces of 1/8" wood laminated together with a wood rack on the inside to preserve the curve. Sure feel stupid for not realizing it before. Everything was gunked with paint so until I actually started scraping down the door, getting it ready to work on, I didn't know.

I wondered why it was so heavy. Thought it might have moisture in it like some others have. But it never got lighter, even after we left it in the hot garage thinking it would dry it out. lol

Just one more fun surprise.
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nope, just two pieces of 1/8" wood laminated together with a wood rack on the inside to preserve the curve. Sure feel stupid for not realizing it before. Everything was gunked with paint so until I actually started scraping down the door, getting it ready to work on, I didn't know.

I wondered why it was so heavy. Thought it might have moisture in it like some others have. But it never got lighter, even after we left it in the hot garage thinking it would dry it out. lol

Just one more fun surprise.
OUCH! Sorry to hear that happened to you.
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Cat, I would bet that there is no good way to make that wood door fit the way the original FG door did when it was built. But, you do have another option...

Several folks have customized their rigs with a screen door. This requires a frame that acts as a jamb. This frame is mounted to the shell. If you are clever, a properly designed and built frame could be fiberglassed to your shell and become an integral part of the body, providing vertical support as well as a square portal. Then you can build a flat entry door from any appropriately prepared material
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