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Old 09-16-2015, 01:29 PM   #1
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Plumbing connections using barbed fittings

Being that I have limited plumbing experience I would like to know what others here have experienced good or bad with the white flexible tubing type water lines using barbed connections. Both Home Depot & local hardware guys both recommended using barbed connections with this type tubing. I was going to use clear vinyl tubing the same way but it has 45 PSI stamped on it so I switched to the white flexible kind that says 100 psi. According to them and to what I have found on the internet the water tubing simply is pushed onto the barbed connections and that alone is enough to seal even up to 100 psi. Using a hose clamp can actually make the self sealing connection fail & leak.

Being that this is such a small plumbing job I don't want to spend a lot of $$$ buying special crimping tools or expensive fitting if what they are telling me is true about the barbed connections...

I would appreciate your input....
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Old 09-16-2015, 02:07 PM   #2
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The Sharkbite type connectors have a bad reputation. They might work fine for you, but I would avoid them.
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Gordon, I did look at those but I purchased standard brass barbed connections based on the stores' recommendation
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The Sharkbite type connectors have a bad reputation. They might work fine for you, but I would avoid them.
I used them to do a very complicated plumbing repair in my home and was amazed by how easy they were to work with. They turned an all day job into a one hour job. I couldn't be happier with them
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I have a regular commercial PEX ring crimping tool and use both plastic and brass fittings without problems. I don't care for the mini-variety of PEX ring crimping tools.


I don't know of a "Barbed Fitting" that will hold any pressure without a clamp, can you provide a link so we will all know about them


There is a push-in fitting for PEX, but I am a little leery about using them in an RV due to vibration and shifting.


However, there is the "Flare-It" fitting line that works well and I have used for a number of repairs vs. new installs. Here's a pic. They are a little pricy, but if you only need a few it's a good way to make sure everything stays in place. They have a full range of fittings, not just those shown in this link.


https://www.google.com/search?q=pex+...We391XFRkpM%3A
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Bob, I don't have a picture or a link but the "plumbing" guy in the Home Depot said the barbed connections with the flexible tubing are meant to seal without a clamp of any kind FWIW, and a more reliable salesperson at a local Ace said the same thing and added that using a clamp can actually cause the hose to pinch up around the barb and leak, he highly suggested not using the hose clamps that I was going to use with it...
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I also asked the ACE guy about the pressure blowing them off, he said it would handle up to 100 psi
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The Sharkbite type connectors have a bad reputation. They might work fine for you, but I would avoid them.
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I used one when I replaced an outdoor faucet and in a month or two it started seeping but then it stopped again

that's ok for my basement but not in my Casita.

I have a mini PEX crimp tool and it always gives me good results. for an occasional mod or repair on my trailer it's fine. But If I were to get into a major project I would spring for a more expensive tool
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When using PEX with a Sharkbite type fittings you have to insert a white stiffiner into the PEX prior to using the slip-on fitting. They are usually in the package with the fitting but some people don't know what they are used for and throw them away. If you do not use the stiffiner (white top hat) you are prone to have leaks. I have bought fittings that did not have the stiffiners in the package, I usually keep some on hand. They are left overs from using Sharkbites on copper tubing.
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So can anyone here tell me if I was told wrong about using the hose clamps with barbed fittings???
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I always use clamps on barbs with out ever an issue. Have had a few blow off before I started using clamps though. I will say that not all barbs are designed the same.
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Pex fittings and their type of attachment.
Types of PEX Fittings and Connection Systems
FWIW: Scamp uses expansion fittings.
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Is the plumbing you concerned about pressurized with the city water connection or an electric pump in the trailer. If not not to worry.
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Here's an interesting paper that may rank above the Guys at Ace and Home Depot. And yes, use of the incorrect size clamps can make matters worse, but I have never seen that problem when the right clamp was used. Anyplace that a leak can cause a problem (meaning anywhere in an RV) gets a clamp.


https://www.bnl.gov/esh/shsd/PDF/Com...troduction.pdf
(BNL = Brookhaven National Laboratories)

The original source of the document is
Tubing Connectors & Tube Couplings €“ Colder Products Company
who seems to a bit about fittings
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