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Old 07-24-2007, 05:30 PM   #29
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All I can say is they didn't fall off! My original mirrors are tapered and the forward surface quite curved. It was not a great fit, but it did work. The convex mirror is rectangular and about 4 X 5.5".
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:46 PM   #30
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Cool! Thanks for posting photos with your reply, Elaine and Bob--those really help! I will look for some soft rubber straps and/or soft, non-scratching bungees to use with the mirror. I think I saw some at Pep Boys Auto when I went in for a locking gas cap (buy a new truck and still have to spring for a locking gas cap?!)

I like that additional convex mirror you added, Bob, and will see if I can find one around here. Say...looks like you have somthing draped between the UTM and the back of your truck mirror...what is that?

Woohoo... getting there! Man, all the accessories start to add up, don't they? And I am sure when we take possession of the tt, we will have to try to control ourselves, because we love to renovate.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:28 PM   #31
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Just a piece cut from some of that non-slip stuff. The little non-slip patches that come with the CIPA UTM don't work very well. Unfortunately, they do slip!
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:15 PM   #32
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Just a piece cut from some of that non-slip stuff. The little non-slip patches that come with the CIPA UTM don't work very well. Unfortunately, they do slip!
Thanks, Bob. I have some of that saved from a kitchen cabinet project and some thicker kind that goes under carpet...one or the other should work great.
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Old 07-29-2007, 08:14 AM   #33
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Here's another towing mirror I just found at Kragens Auto for $30. It is labelled K source and Fit system, made in Taiwan. I haven't had a chance to test it, but it might be better for the left side (bigger than the CIPA UTM) and I don't have to point my regular mirror downward to install it, like I do with the CIPA.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:09 AM   #34
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I previously had the UTM on my Toyota Sienna with our Bigfoot B17 trailer and they worked very well. However there was a minor problem with the adjustable rubber feet leaving a mark on the black plastic of the Sienna mirrors. With the black plastic mirror, it was not too much of a problem.

We now have upgraded to a Bigfoot 5th wheel and a new 2007 Nissan Frontier LE pickup with painted side mirrors. I did not want to use the UTM on the painted surface and purchased the ratchet door mirrors. I have only used them for a short trip and do not have any long travels experience. So far they seem to do the job well. All are available at Camping World. Hope that helps.

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Old 07-30-2007, 12:25 AM   #35
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Woops, well we already ordered the UTM mirrors, so I will wrap those little black rubber feet in something less likely to leave a mark on our chrome-painted mirrors. Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:18 AM   #36
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UPDATE on the CIPA Universal Towing Mirrors purchased for our trip to fetch our trailer:

They are boxed back up waiting to be sent back via UPS--didn't work with our 2007 Frontier mirrors at all. Neither of the two styles of clips fit securely over the edges of the side mirrors and both prevented us from adjusting our truck's side mirrors , the little black adhesive CIPA pads came off within no time, and despite frequent stops to readjust and tighten them, one finally fell off--we were grateful it didn't damage the truck door when it fell, though the tow mirror's glass cracked. I guess each car model is very individual in terms of the shape of its side mirrors, so it's not easy to make a truly "universal" tow mirror, but we found the straps and clips and little pads to be very cumbersome to use anyway. We removed both mirrors and headed to the nearest Camping World to be found along our trip. There we found two new tow mirrors that look just like the ones Bob B posted about. These were only $15 each, and fit snugly and securely with the thick rubber straps provided. Since we will always remove them when not towing, it will take a while for the rubber to deteriorate. They didn't budge at all during the rest of the journey... will try to take a look at what brand they are for others with similarly shaped side mirrors as ours. It all worked out in the end and to their credit, RV Wholesalers didn't give me any trouble about returning them for credit--incidentally, RV Wholesalers had the $399 price on the Equalizer wdh and sway, which really made the towing experience a good one. And with the deep discounts they have on the trailer brands that they do carry, I sure wish they sold Bigfoots...but, alas, they sell no glass.
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Val,

So you broke one mirror and were still able to return them for full credit. I'm impressed!
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Hi Bob,

My feeling is that if CIPA is a proactive company, then when they get returns of their products from their distributors, along with details from customers on what didn't work about their product, then they will use that information to improve their products. Since we followed their instructions and the product did not perform as advertised and it is under warranty, then I believe that I have a right to expect a refund or that the problem be corrected. That's just good business sense and customer service. Now if consumers are negligent and don't follow instructions and then try to return something that they damaged, then that's a different story. But I just explained exactly what happened and asked if they would accept both, including the broken one for return, since we had followed all instructions and hadn't been careless in any way. The CIPA mirrors are marketed as "universal," but really they don't fit every vehicle mirror, so I sent my constructive feedback in with my return, because based on our experience, I don't feel that they are very well designed tow mirrors compared to the less expensive pair that we picked up.

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I have the ones Bob posted about.

I have no qualms with the way they work, or with quality.

They just don't add much to the party.

Putting convex stick ons on my regular mirros does the same thing, and are zero maintenance... so far.
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Hmmm... is there a guarantee that they fit? If there is, and they don't, they should still be returnable even after flying down the highway!
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So you broke one mirror and were still able to return them for full credit. I'm impressed!
I suggested it, but I wouldn't have bet it could be done, so I'm impressed, too!

Score one for CIPA as a business ... if not for their mirrors.
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It's actually RV Wholesalers who are taking the mirrors back--but they will return the product to the manufacturer with my feedback. RV Wholesalers has excellent customer service... they even expedited the processing of my order because I was going to be leaving for Canada and so I got the Equalizer and those mirrors delivered within 3 days at no extra charge... I am sure glad they had free shipping, because the mirrors just cost $12 to return via UPS. This is the website I mentioned had the rock-bottom price of $399 on the four-point wdh and sway control Equalizer. Not sure if they ship to Canada, but wow, it was several hundred cheaper than the local shops were selling it for.
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I have the ones Bob posted about.

I have no qualms with the way they work, or with quality.

They just don't add much to the party.

Putting convex stick ons on my regular mirros does the same thing, and are zero maintenance... so far.
That's actually a really good point, Gina. I didn't notice that the right mirrors in particular did anything more... I could see quite well around the trailer without the tow mirrors. I think your convex sticks ons are a great idea, but aren't there laws in certain regions that one has to have tow mirrors installed when towing a trailer? Not sure if the highway patrol would consider stick-ons the same as tow mirrors, even if they work equally well... any highway patrol or police officers out there who could address that question?
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