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Old 12-29-2002, 12:55 PM   #1
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I have an early 1970's Trama fiberglass trailer and am working on getting pictures posted. It is very similar to a 13 foot Boler. It is in bad shape and I have run into some problems and wondered if anyone could help with answers.
1. I am replacing the cabinet doors with 1/2 inch furniture plywood and have found hinges I like but has anyone found attractive and secure latches for the cabinets? I've tried Home Depot with no luck.
2. The trailer has been at least three different colors and the fiberglass needs to be repainted . I would prefer to roll the paint on and not spray-anyone have any experience/ideas?
3. I have a funny vent over the stove where it looks like a window once was. Have any ideas where to find a replacement window the same size as the hole/style to match the others?
4. The roof vents are roughly 11 X 11 inches and no longer functional. I have removed them and am looking for replacements. I'd like to have a fan in one and just a vent in the other and was hoping not to butcher the roof any more.
Thanks for all the help and inspiration on this site.
Mike
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Old 12-29-2002, 02:52 PM   #2
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mike,
I haven't done any of this stuff yet, but will start mine this late winter. I know there are some who have painted inside and out. best way to find this information if to use that search bar at the upper right hand corner of the mage. you might start with paint and if there are too many choices add fiberglass of something like that. also check some of Dec. topices. there is a 72 restore and another of which I can't remember. good stuff in both of them.
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Old 12-29-2002, 06:56 PM   #3
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Mike:

You'll need to go to an 'RV supply' for cabinet latches. Most dealers have a catalog available, or find em online. For vents and windows do a google search for 'hehr rv windows'.
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Old 12-29-2002, 07:02 PM   #4
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Mike
I believe Ray Horner posted this site for door latches but they have alot more.
http://www.rvsurplussalvage.com/index.php
Look under Hardware on the third page
These are the cupboard door latches on most RV's
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Old 01-01-2003, 06:35 PM   #5
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roof vents and repainting

Nobody has any experience with replacing roof vents or repainting??? Thanks for all the help.
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Old 01-01-2003, 06:40 PM   #6
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Mike, I believe standard vent size is 14x14; so you might want to consider upsizing so replacement parts are available. Or replace one of them with a Fantastic Vent.

Dunno about the window over the stove.

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Old 01-02-2003, 01:50 AM   #7
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The opening over the stove could have been for a rangehood that was removed. A rangehood would have vented to the exterior of the camper. What is the size of the opening of the hole.

Below are some useful links for restoration:

Amerock
Hinge Replacement
http://www.amerock.com/amerock/consumer/jh...requestid=34158

Bobs Travel Center
Pla-Cool Evaporative Cooler
http://www.bobstravelcenter.com/catalog/pl...ler_1482653.htm

Border Trading Company
Pla-Cool Evaporative Cooler
http://www.go-rv.com/online/447/showproduc...ails?catid=1109

Vegas Trailer Supply
Pla-Cool Evaporative Cooler
http://www.go-rv.com/online/1060/showprodu...ails?catid=1109

Dometic
Replacement refrigerator
http://www.dometicusa.com/products/rv/dome...ic/compact.html

Fantastic Vent Fan
Cooling - rooftop fans
http://www.fantasticvent.com/

Maxx Air
Vent Covers
http://www.maxxair.com/

Norcold
Replacement refrigerator
http://www.norcold.com/322.cfm

Shur-Flo
RV Water Pump
http://www.shurflo-original.com/

Thin-lite
Replacement model 111 original flourescent single tube light fixtures
http://www.thinlite.com/prod02.htm

Valterra
Rocket Hand Pump Faucet and other Fresh Water Fittings
http://www.valterra.com/RV/water_hose.htm

Ventline
Replacement rangehood
http://www.ventline.com/Prod.asp?ID=4&ProdID=46

For RV Surplus & Salvage
http://www.rvsurplussalvage.com/

In regards to painting the interior. Mike Watters painted the interior of his '72 Boler with a spray on vinyl type paint. Regardless of how you paint your interior. You would either need to seal the fiberglass so the paint will adhere to the fiberglass. Either by sanding with wet/dry sandpaper or the easier alternative of using a sealer or sizing similar to KILZ.

I would look at Mike Watter's message and thread

http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/read.php?TID=771
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Old 01-02-2003, 03:25 AM   #8
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I painted the whole inside of my Boler with melimaine paint. That also included the Insulation. It went on great and I had no serious problems. Insulation stayed flexible.:)
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Old 01-02-2003, 10:20 AM   #9
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Do a search for Quake Latches

Quake latches are what I'm putting into my 77 Scamp resto.

PIX: http://Sprite.viptx.net/~moomesa/index.html

I need a 211B 3 way fridge. The newer Dometics are too deep (2193)

I put on new marker lights this holiday, new plywood floor, and rerouted wires.
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Old 01-04-2003, 08:26 AM   #10
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Hinges, latches etc

Hinges:
I reused mine.

Latches:
The problem is the fact the door will be 1/2" above the face of the cabinate. I wasn't able to find anything locally that matched that. I ended up reusing the old catches, but installed new latches to meet them.
Of course - it's also true that exact replacement can be mail ordered. I found exactly the latches we had at one point - but don't have the URL handy.

Painting:
I painted mine by rolling. The trailer had been painted once already (poorly) and needed some fairly extensive (by my skill level anyway) body work, so it needed to be painted. After scraping off as much of the old paint as possible and doing the fixes to the glass, I scuffed it down extensively using a palm sander.
This is the part most people will likely wince at... I first used the palm sander to eliminate the last stubborn areas of loose paint - using uh... 20 grit sandpaper. :)
The proper scuffing was then done with 150 grit sandpaper (which also smoothed out the results of the 20 grit). The 20 grit paper btw was left over from when we refinished our floors (110 yr old red oak - gorgeous stuff) which was covered in carpet glue (AAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!). Only the 20 could chew through the glue.
Anyway - after the scuffing, I rolled on a couple layers of Rustoleum's 'clean metal primer'. That was followed with three layers of Rustoleum paint (gray on top, blue on bottom).
The time consuming parts are on the ends. Prep work at the beginning takes forever, but you have to get off any loose paint or it'll just flake off taking your new paint with it. The detail work at the end was also time consuming. I painted all the exposed metal trim black (hinges, latch, bellyband), I also painted all the old external window seals with black spray vinyl (which I REALLY recommend if yours have gotten gray and cruddy looking - but still serve their function nicely). The external aluminum window frames were also painted with silver paint (easier than polishing up the aluminum).

I've posted photos of all the work in an earlier thread.

Mike
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Old 01-04-2003, 10:18 AM   #11
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primer

every time I read Mike Watters's say - I rolled on a couple layers of Rustoleum's 'clean metal primer'- I think someone needs to tell Mike that the trailer is FIBERGLASS not METAL. must be a good primer. :)
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20 Grit Sandpaper??

I didn't know it came so rough! Does it have only three or four rock chips on an entire sheet? (hee hee)

Mike, did you have to do any special prep work for the vinyl paint to adhere to the window mouldings? Ours are looking their age and your suggestion to paint them caught my eye.

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Painting...

Clean Metal Primer:
I just squinted real hard and pretended it was a little Airstream... :)

Actually - I emailed the Rustoleum help line and asked for their suggestion for how to prep and paint fiberglass. The scuffing and priming with 'clean metal primer' was their instruction. The only product they have specifically for glass is really made for coating bathtubs not really appropriate for this purpose.

Painting the black window trim:
I washed it down, scrubbed, scrapped off all the lichen growth, washed and scraped some more etc etc etc. You get the idea. Just lots of washing etc to get it as absolutely clean as possible.

20 Grit sandpaper:
I can't get it in the local hardware stores. I've only seen it sold precut to fit into floor sanders (drum sanders). It looks a little bit like gravel epoxied down to the paper. :) I also like to describe it as looking a little bit like a cheese grater. :D
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