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Old 08-05-2016, 10:00 AM   #15
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:03 AM   #16
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It looks to me like that all that is necessary is simply turning the battery "long ways" in the same area! Plenty of room.

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If you loose one of the propane tanks and move one forward and put the two 6 volts behind you would have lots of room...... you will be surprised as to how long one tank will last you.
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:45 AM   #17
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I must be missing something. I have had that unpleasant surprise of crossing the battery terminals with a wrench, and I'm very careful now. However, that is a momentary short, whereas a battery flooded on top with rain water might be the short that destroys the battery for good. Am I wrong?

And, gordon2, what size fuse do you use and why? Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-05-2016, 11:07 AM   #18
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No, you shouldn't run like that. Not safe.
You could put a box on there so easy...

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Old 08-05-2016, 11:23 AM   #19
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It looks to me like that all that is necessary is simply turning the battery "long ways" in the same area! Plenty of room.
Thats how mine are mounted & looking at the OP's picture it appears it may be do able as well but they do take up a fair bit of space. On mine the custom made box for the two 6 volts - in a very tight fit measures 18 3/4" (sideways) x 11 1/4" (back to front).
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Just thought we should clarify, our trailer has a travel cover over both the propane tank and the battery, as can be seen from the additional photos attached. Hopefully this will address the safety concerns regarding kids, rain water, etc.

gordon2 has a great tip on the fuse, we will definitely look into it.

carol, would love to see your setup with the custom box -- really love to fit a couple of 6 volts in there!



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Old 08-05-2016, 11:40 AM   #21
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We still have the tongue box that comes with the Bigfoot, so the entire front area (battery and propane tanks) are still protected. Is this setup safe?

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I think a battery box would be good. And not a big expense.
But I think it would be safe as is. I think others are missing that it will be covered.


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Well, then, it's covered. That is a BEAUTIFUL tongue cover!
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:48 AM   #23
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I must be missing something. I have had that unpleasant surprise of crossing the battery terminals with a wrench, and I'm very careful now. However, that is a momentary short, whereas a battery flooded on top with rain water might be the short that destroys the battery for good. Am I wrong?
Not necessarily, the wrench (or whatever) can be almost instantaneously "arc welded" to the battery post.

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And, gordon2, what size fuse do you use and why?
Fuse size depends on the rig, wire size, etc. What I use might be different and not apply to anyone else.

Scamp used an in-line fuse holder with a (if I recall right) 20 amp fuse about ten inches from the battery.

I have since made some changes and added a solar system with 8 gauge wiring, so with greater capacity between the shunt, solar charger, and battery, I use a 30 amp AT THE BATTERY. The, where the trailer's main wiring begins inside the camper I use the same in-line 20 amp.

Its still similar to the two fuse set up that Scamp has in their wiring diagram.
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:51 AM   #24
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We still have the tongue box that comes with the Bigfoot, so the entire front area (battery and propane tanks) are still protected. Is this setup safe?
OH THATS DIFFERENT! Fist I heard of the cover I think.

STILL please fuse the battery as close to the positive post as you can.

THEN YOU ARE GOOD TO GO!

(Unless someone wants to discuss ventilating the lighter than air and explosive gas that comes out of the battery, esp. when it is charging). As a general rule, ventilation holes should be at the highest point in the cover.

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Ahhhh, I feel MUCHO better now.

One thing I would STILL do differently, automobiles STILL have a cover that goes over the "Positive" (red) terminal. For instance, you're removing a tank and it slips or what ever and bumps the hot and sparks etc.... the "scare" alone could cause you to drop the tank and hurt yourself...

Otherwise, gotta admit, I LOVE that cover!
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Sorry...I view that picture as TOTALLY UNSAFE! Yes, you have a battery in your automobile not in a "box" but it IS closed in under a hood where something cant fall on it.

I just cant believe a question could come up like this when battery boxes are too cheap to argue about...especially where the positive/negative battery terminals are exposed AND in easy reach for children!!!
I'm with you, Darral. Out at the farm we have a battery on an irrigation pump, without a box. Nobody goes up on the platform much, except to start and stop the pump, and they know what they are doing.

Regarding ventilation holes, I also drilled holes in each of the bottom corners of my box to get rid of any rain that gets in..............and yes, it does.

In a campground there are way more opportunities to short the posts, and if the battery is in any kind of overcharge state someone could get acid residue on their skin and cloths.

Battery boxes are cheap and an effective means of protecting the battery and people who go near it. Even if you have to do minor modifications to mount it, it's worth the small investment of time and money.
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Just do yourself a favor and put it in a battery box that has a lid. Then you will not have to worry about a rock hitting the battery and draining out the acid that may prove to be deadly to some person or animal or something shorting out the battery and catching something on fire or cause an explosion because of a propane leak.
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I have two 6v batteries and one propane on the tongue in a custom "cover". No separate box for the batteries. I tried to find a box or boxes for the batteries but could not fit any in the space I had which was barely long enough for just the two batteries. I do have an appropriately sized fuse, and plastic shielding* at the positive terminal and connections. The batteries are well secured to custom tray I made for them and after a couple of years, a few thousand miles, and some pretty bad terrain taken at too high a speed, everything has stayed put.


*The "shielding" is actually plastic sleeving for copper water pipe when you run it up through a concrete slab. I cut a piece to length, six inches or so, and slit the bottom of one end an inch or two. It slides over the wire and then over the terminal on the battery and works slick. It is even red so lends a professional touch to the installation! Just don't tell anybody I am using plumbing in the electrical circuit!
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