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Old 11-12-2014, 05:35 PM   #15
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Noticed a pattern here, for what it's worth... With one exception, all who posted favoring a bathroom in a 13' trailer actually own larger trailers, including two 16' Scamps, a 5m Escape, a 17' Casita, a 15' Parkliner, and a 19' Escape. Among posters who currently own a 13' Scamp, "vote" appears to be 6 to 1 against a bathroom. Just an interesting observation... Doesn't make anyone's choice right or wrong, merely more or less common.
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Old 11-12-2014, 05:58 PM   #16
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Jon, you are right and that is probably more often than not also age-related. Many start with 13's and go on to bigger. I do see some saying that if you want a bathroom, get a 16'. I was surprised to find that a 13' Scamp has a bathroom so that is a possibility. Everyone's likes and dislikes are so different. Some still have the get-up-and-go attitude, literally! Been there.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:10 PM   #17
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I guess this qualifies as "age related" I have never minded going out in the night and finding a tree or the spot we made a hole but... my knees are just not happy holding a squat. Back against a tree or sapling to hold in front, either way at the least I really appreciate (need) some sort of seat. Even one of those folding chair leg things with a commode seat. Two branches lashed between two trees but something....

Night is not a problem but dang I hate waking up and having to get dressed first thing. Guess that is why I like the boondocks. What I wore to bed is fine for finding a little bladder relief tree first thing in the morning.

With bathroom does seem to be more desirable by boomers who retire (or those at least thinking in terms of using the camper in retirement) I think younger couples and families might find the space and bunk a bit more desirable. Or if you have a dog or pets that couch can get them out from under foot.

My dream camper is a 16 ft. with a bath and AC but I enjoy my 13 ft. with 4 windows with a nice flow through breeze and no bath just enough to keep me from being motivated to go looking. Or it could be I'm just lazy

Also unless you are ordering new you might have to broaden your search to include brands other than scamp to get a used FGRV with the features you decide you want. Or as prev. posts mention find something use it with whatever features it has and re-sell to get something different if you find it does not suit you.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:17 PM   #18
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Agree with you Cathi. Maybe I have a hidden agenda... want lots of people to buy 16' side bath Scamps now, so when I am an empty-nester in 10 years or so and ready to travel more, there will be a nice used one waiting for me! By then my old-man bladder should be kicking in. 👴

Annette, please don't mind any of this and do exactly what you want!
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:24 PM   #19
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Among posters who currently own a 13' Scamp, "vote" appears to be 6 to 1 against a bathroom. Just an interesting observation... Doesn't make anyone's choice right or wrong, merely more or less common.
One only needs to step into a 13' Scamp that has a front bathroom to get a pretty good idea as to why that may be. Any way you look at it a front bathroom makes a small trailer feel even smaller. If I had decided I really wanted to stay with a 13' trailer I would not have purchased one with a bathroom either.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:48 PM   #20
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If you are in the trailer more smaller feel matters more. Many really do treat it as they would a tent. Sleep in it, change in it, and haul the gear in it. I use my Coleman stove and a fire to cook, scamp just gets my gear there. Others especially folks who use the camper as a base for other activities or full time may well spend more time inside.

Stopping for the night then moving on less gear to haul out is better. Getting ready to go visit a museum or art galleries being totally self contained and having everything you need to get ready to go might be a better use of space.

It is sort of like the full time bed or remove bedding and set up table question. Spend more time inside and stowing the bedding so you can have a table makes more sense.

That is one thing about a couch instead of a bathroom, one person can stretch out to read or take a nap with the table set up. No couch means only way to take a nap is with table down in a bed. Which leaves the non napping person with no place else to sit except outside or on the edge of the bed. We have been known to bring a folding chair inside for a place to sit when one of us wants to use the bed but it really takes up most of the floor space.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:53 PM   #21
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We had a Scamp 13 with washroom, sold it and bought Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe, sold it and have a Scamp 13 with front washroom on order. We also have a teardrop and always miss the self contained washroom. In fact on extended trips it costs us more for campsites as we look for places with more facilities

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Old 11-12-2014, 08:07 PM   #22
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hmmm lets see...

TRAVEL TRAILER
dry shelter...check
food preparation... check
refrigeration... check
place to lounge and sleep...check
HVAC...Check
electronics,lighting and communication...check
toilet and shower..check
yup... all the comforts of home.

CAMPER
dry shelter...check
place to lounge and sleep...check
everything else optional...check

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Old 11-12-2014, 08:55 PM   #23
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Thanks, everybody, for your thoughtful replies. I think if we were able to tow a 16 ft., we'd be leaning toward getting the bathroom. But after reading your thoughts and experiences, we'll probably choose to go without. We like the extra sitting space and light and think we can come up with some workable alternatives for the middle of the night. If we regret it, there's always the next one to dream about.

Thanks, again. We're excited to be a part of this illustrious group.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:03 PM   #24
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Great observation

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Noticed a pattern here, for what it's worth... With one exception, all who posted favoring a bathroom in a 13' trailer actually own larger trailers, including two 16' Scamps, a 5m Escape, a 17' Casita, a 15' Parkliner, and a 19' Escape. Among posters who currently own a 13' Scamp, "vote" appears to be 6 to 1 against a bathroom. Just an interesting observation... Doesn't make anyone's choice right or wrong, merely more or less common.
I think you're right, Jon, that people who make a choice to stay in a 13 Ft Scamp have different priorities. Not right or wrong, just different. This helps a lot to see it quantified.

Thanks.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:13 PM   #25
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Thanks, again. We're excited to be a part of this illustrious group.
You see that???
They said we are an illustrious group!
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:27 PM   #26
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I'm chiming in after the discussion is over. We have a Scamp 13 with no bathroom, and the older I get, the less I like the middle-of-the-night stroll to the facilities (especially since it wakes me up, and when I get back, it's hard to go back to sleep). I'm one who would vote for at least a toilet. But I'd hate to give up the front bench for one. The ideal camper size is the 15' - with a corner bathroom and a half bench.
Yes, those comments about how small the camper is without the front bench are spot on.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:46 PM   #27
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We thought we wanted the front bath until we "tried out" both configurations at the factory a couple of weeks ago. We plan to go with the front sofa and a porta-potty at night. The bathroom wall really makes the trailer seem a LOT smaller and you lose the big window as well.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:15 PM   #28
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Annette,
 
It sounds like you have already come to the same conclusion that we did.
 
I can sympathize with your dilemma. We went through the same thing when
we ordered our Scamp13L1 54" bed (without a bathroom) and picked it up
in Oct 2013. So far, no real regrets. (We do, however, carry a porta-potti.)
 
We are close to retirement age. We have several grandchildren who
like to travel with us whenever they can, so we wanted to at least have
the ability to at least occasionally sleep 4.
 
When traveling by ourselves, we like the openness of the trailer when
the table set up. When in the bed configuration. we like the ability to sit
on the sofa to get dressed (or eat).
 
I personally hate the thought of dealing with the blackwater issues
(stinky-slinky hoses, dump stations, gaskets & valves, etc.) (Have you
watched the dump station segment of the Robin Williams movie "RV"?)
 
Although we own (and like) a Scamp13, the bathroom option that
I find at least somewhat interesting is the Thetford cassette toilette
option on the Lil' Snoozy. No dump stations or stinky-slinky hoses
to deal with. (Watch the video at http://www.lilsnoozy.com/ )
 
When we left the airshow up at Oshkosh, there were multiple long
(8 to 10 units) lines of Class A motor-homes (and other trailers)
all lined up waiting to use the dump station on the last day of the
airshow. If we had needed to wait in that line, I figured that we
would have been delayed by about an hour or more before being
able to get on the road.
 
From a couple of experiences, I think that having some sort of
OBF (onboard facilities) is a pretty good idea. On one occasion,
I was awakened in the morning by thunder and was able to get to
the restroom before the storm front arrived but chose to wait out
the heaviest part of the rain before going back to the trailer. On
another occasion, in a small town city park, there was a considerable
delay while the only nearby restrooms were being cleaned.
 
If we had been able to handle the tow weight of a 16 foot trailer,
we would still have probably wanted the larger bed and would
likely have chosen the smaller side bathroom. With a 13 ft trailer,
we have been able to get by pretty well with a porta-potti for
some of the more urgent needs. As always YMMV.
 
As you have already heard, there are many camping styles,
opinions, and requirements. I hope that you have few (if any)
regrets about your decision and that you will really enjoy
your new trailer.

Ray
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