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Old 07-27-2015, 08:02 PM   #29
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Not to be a picky science guy, but I don't think that a fan can have any significant effect on the amount of water content (aka Humidity) in the air.

Moving air over a body might provide some cooling, but the water content will stay the same. A dehumidifier works basically like a small a/c to take water out of the air.

Picky, picky, picky.......but correct. The only way a fan could reduce humidity is by blowing humid air out and sucking dryer outside air in, if the outside air is dryer. That would effectively "reduce" the humidity within the enclosed space of a trailer, but in reality it doesn't actually reduce the humidity, it only displaces it to another location.


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Old 07-28-2015, 07:42 AM   #30
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A camp stove might be fun for a weekend, but for two months maybe not so much.
This is another place where opinions vary and the quality of the stove you choose also makes a difference. I've cooked with ours for extended amounts of time - it may help that mine is a high powered one (more BTU's than even a cooktop inside the camper would put out - it rivals my cooktop at home) so I'm not feeling "limited" by what it can do, nor is it particularly inconvenient.

The longest I've cooked exclusively on it was well over a month, and I could have gone longer, no problem.
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If you base it on money and weight savings, I don't think that either will add up to that much. A stop top doesn't weigh that much. Now, a stove does weigh quite a bite when you have an oven though.
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Might want to check with Scamp... I vaguely recall seeing a unit in which the owner had omitted either the stove or the sink- can't remember which- and there way a slight raised bump in the countertop where the cutout would have been. Could be wrong, but if so, that would bother me...

Another option (assuming the countertop is smooth) would be to leave out both sink and stove, but have all the rough plumbing in place. You could install one of the recessed SMEV combo units. Wide open counter, but there if you need it. Downside is cost- they don't come cheap, and I doubt you'll get much of a credit from Scamp.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:20 AM   #33
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[QUOTE=CPW;537831]Picky, picky, picky.......but correct. The only way a fan could reduce humidity is by blowing humid air out and sucking dryer outside air in, if the outside air is dryer. That would effectively "reduce" the humidity within the enclosed space of a trailer, but in reality it doesn't actually reduce the humidity, it only displaces it to another location.]

That's what I meant. No doubt cooking inside raises the humidity inside. If you open the windows a crack and turn up the MaxAir, it's a non-event.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:56 AM   #34
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I think that the discussion was about being able to sleep in high humidity conditions, not about sleeping while the husband was cooking dinner.... LOLOLOL
My experience is that humidity does not often drop after the sun goes down.
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Well if you have a furnace and 3 way refrigerator then you probably won't want to eliminate the propane line because that is the most efficient way to run the refrigerator off grid. If it has none of these and no stove why not just buy a project camper that is just a shell?

I too take the old Coleman stove and cook on it or over a fire (did the same when I used a 38 ft. motor home with stove & oven) BUT removing the stove takes the camper out of the category of being "complete" kitchen to being a "stripped" to point of not being a kitchen. Which while it might suit your needs will probably hurt the resale value an inordinate amount. Even pop-ups and teardrops have kitchens. Way too easy to drop a cover or cutting board on stove so it becomes just more counter space in your use.

If you are ever traveling across country and want to be able to just pull in someplace, crash for the night, brew a cup in the morning and hit the road not having to set up the camp stove will come in handy for making that cup of go juice in the morning or a can of soup in the evening. Walmart parking lot, rest area or just a single night in a campground on the way are all situations where having a stove inside might prove useful. And built in is a whole lot safer than liquid fuel or small propane bottle rigs set up on the counter.

If your ordering camper then I would say the teeny, tiny amount of discount on the price of a new camper for no stove makes it totally pointless to remove it for cost saving purposes. If you can use a Coleman camp stove then using the one in the camper will be easier not harder so certainly not an issue. I say order stove with the optional cover and call it good.

Edit: Feel free to ignore what I say.... I'm married so totally used to it. DW proves me wrong about 1/2 the time, and right about 1/2 the time.
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Not to be a picky science guy, but I don't think that a fan can have any significant effect on the amount of water content (aka Humidity) in the air.

Moving air over a body might provide some cooling, but the water content will stay the same. A dehumidifier works basically like a small a/c to take water out of the air.
Yeah, way too picky.

I do as Darral described, and use my fan to move air out of the trailer, which reduces the humidity of the air inside substantially. This is the main purpose for a stove or bath fan, to remove potentially damaging moisture, not to rid the space of odour.
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One needs to travel in humid areas to appreciate my point.
Sucking in outside air at 85% humidity is not going to reduce the inside air below 85%. I think that we are talking about air exchange fans, like a Max Air fan., not dinky vent fans in bathrooms and kitchen hoods.
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One needs to travel in humid areas to appreciate my point.
Sucking in outside air at 85% humidity is not going to reduce the inside air below 85%. I think that we are talking about air exchange fans, like a Max Air fan., not dinky vent fans in bathrooms and kitchen hoods.
Fan will not reduce the humidity below the ambient BUT it will prevent humidity inside the camper from being higher than ambient humidity . A real possibility with breathing, sweating, cooking, open beverages etc. (etc. includes wet dog)

We use evaporation of sweat to cool our bodies, moving air through the camper will both speed that evaporation lowering our temperature and avoid that sweat adding to the ambient humidity.

I would add in one other plus for a vent fan, pulling air in from under the shade tarp or awning. The air temp in the shade is considerably lower than in the sun. One non-AC house cooling system simply pulled air from under the roof soffits, just that little bit of shade was several degrees cooler.
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Great idea Darral - excellent use of the space after you took out the cooktop!
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Thanks for the kind words Beak.

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Great idea Darral - excellent use of the space after you took out the cooktop!
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