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Old 09-01-2015, 11:16 AM   #1
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Scamp rivet issue

Ok so I'll probably get hammered on this and possibly rightly so
I have a scamp with a number of rivets missing both the caps as well as the piece the caps snap on to
Had anyone simply glued ( not sure what product) the caps on without replacing the rivets
It doesn't appear that they are leaking( hey here in so calif it hasn't rained significantly in 4 years
Or am i taking the lazy route



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Old 09-01-2015, 11:37 AM   #2
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Fyi i did use a fairly hi pressure wash and nothing is leaking


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Old 09-01-2015, 11:56 AM   #3
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The right way to do this can be found on the Casita website members forum. Basically take out all rivets, then redo with the new rivits that have the washer things that hold the caps on. That is what has broken. Takes two people, one on the inside of camper. Some have to be cut off. Having said that, my friend choose to go the tempory easy route, he globbed his with Proflex and then put the new caps on. We shall see how long this lasts. New ones can be ordered from Scamp or an RV Service Center.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:04 PM   #4
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LOL definitely the lazy route

Drilling out the rivet and popping in a new one with a new cap holder is not difficult or time consuming. But as has been pointed out if it is one that has an acorn nut on the inside then two people are needed to do it.

Scamp will sell you a package contained various right sized rivets and caps & acorn nuts, that will make the job easier.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:25 PM   #5
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Ok
Well that settles it ill call scamp and order the rivets/ caps
My trailer has the rat fur.... Whoa Happens to old rivets ... Do they just fall behind the fur ?


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Old 09-01-2015, 01:06 PM   #6
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Where are the rivets that would be hidden behind the ratfur? My cabinets, closet etc. have the ratfur "sandwiched" between the outer shell and what ever it's holding. I still believe the "give" or compression of rat fur and insulation in time is what causes some of the unprecedented loosening of the rivets in the closet/cabinet areas anyway.

Yer reading the words of one Scamp owner here that literally HATES the rivets!

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Well that settles it ill call scamp and order the rivets/ caps
My trailer has the rat fur.... Whoa Happens to old rivets ... Do they just fall behind the fur ?


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Old 09-02-2015, 09:26 AM   #7
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Yer reading the words of one Scamp owner here that literally HATES the rivets!
Your math is not right.
There two of us here.

Sez the guy who's replaced ~30 leaky rivets w/ M5 SS panhead, SS washers & SS nylocks.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:32 AM   #8
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With your "fix", it sounds like we're definitely on the same page. Here's some photos I uploaded of one fix. It may look familiar to ya. FWIW, I've been blasted even on the FIX saying basically that it may cause the rest of my Scamp to crack open. WHAT??? Anyway...that's life on a forum.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/503516...57633366995497

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Your math is not right.
There two of us here.

Sez the guy who's replaced ~30 leaky rivets w/ M5 SS panhead, SS washers & SS nylocks.
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:22 AM   #9
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Your math is not right.
There two of us here.

Sez the guy who's replaced ~30 leaky rivets w/ M5 SS panhead, SS washers & SS nylocks.

So you'd rather have fiberglass failure than rivet failure. To each their own.

Did you use 1/4" bolts or bigger, to make it look really red neck?
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:33 AM   #10
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I use M5, which is a little smaller than the rivet, but still a good fit. A 1/4" is definitely too big and would have required drilling the holes oversize. Additionally, as you noted, anything larger than M5 would be WAY stronger than the FG hull, which is pointless.
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:50 AM   #11
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I replaced every single one of my rivets with stainless steel hardware. I used finishing washers on the outside and they look great, haven't leaked, and most importantly with 5 years of hard use, have not cracked or stressed the fiberglass. Rivets are just cheap and Scamp LOVES cheap!
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:55 AM   #12
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I put a piece of vinyl tape over the rivets that were missing caps for the summer. It worked so good I can't believe it isn't used in production. A simple disk of white vinyl tape. You could replace it with a fingernail, solvent and 1 minute when it looked bad.

My trailer has all the the rivets to be replaced as the cap holders are bad. Eventually I'll get to it.

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Old 09-02-2015, 07:16 PM   #13
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I take the easy way when I lose a rivet cap. I purchased 20 or 30 of the two sizes of caps Scamp sells. Each year I have to replace about 5-8 of them. They come off most often when I wash the Scamp. Generally I don't even lose the cap. I squirt a little white silicone on the rivet and in the cap and press it back on. I have found they stay on a bit better if I drill a small hole in the cap so a little silicone comes through. I wipe any extra silicone off with a cloth. I've done this for a couple of years now and think I probably have enough spares for maybe the next 10 years or so.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:24 PM   #14
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Varmint, my friend Al has been using your technique for many years now. It works fine for him, but I had many bad rivets so went the threaded replacement route.
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