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Old 01-04-2015, 05:53 PM   #15
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It's not just about how much water you put in... but it's the output! Have you figured out how to get rid of all the gray or blackwater? I've noticed the manufacturers match all the freshwater (including hotwater tank) to the gray/black.
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:02 PM   #16
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Is it possible the tank was never actually full? I know it takes a long time to get my tank to fill and it has to be done slowly. I have thought it to be full a couple of times when it was not - suspect an air block in the filler tube caused me to think it was full. Another thing is as soon as you turn on the water pump unless you have a bypass on the hot water tank it with automatically fill the hot water tank thus robbing you of half your fresh water supply. Once the fresh tank is empty you can not get the water that is in the hot water tank out!



I am like the others would rather carry spare water in the tug than loose the one large storage hatch to another tank.

You may be right. The grey side was very quick to drain. Could be that we started out light on water.



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Is it possible the tank was never actually full? I know it takes a long time to get my tank to fill and it has to be done slowly. I have thought it to be full a couple of times when it was not - suspect an air block in the filler tube caused me to think it was full.
Carol, I had a similar problem, filling the fresh water tank was a big pain in the behind, holding the six gallon (50 pounds) bladder, dribbling it in and letting air out through the same hole. I found out that the tank vent tube had a kink in it. It was held up with a clamp to the underside of the seat and it was kinked from the factory. I removed the clamp, let the plastic relax and now I can pour the water in really fast. (I was just poking around to see how they plumbed it, when I noticed it one day.)
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Carol, I had a similar problem, filling the fresh water tank was a big pain in the behind, holding the six gallon (50 pounds) bladder, dribbling it in and letting air out through the same hole. I found out that the tank vent tube had a kink in it. It was held up with a clamp to the underside of the seat and it was kinked from the factory. I removed the clamp, let the plastic relax and now I can pour the water in really fast. (I was just poking around to see how they plumbed it, when I noticed it one day.)

Paul you may be correct that may have been part of the issue with filling the tank on my trailer as well. Can not say for sure but I did replace the vent tube a couple of years ago and now that you mention it, it has been easier to fill since. But I do know that when filling with a hose I do need to keep the water flow into it fairly low other wise it does tend to back up causing me to think its full when it isn't.
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It's not just about how much water you put in... but it's the output! Have you figured out how to get rid of all the gray or blackwater? I've noticed the manufacturers match all the freshwater (including hotwater tank) to the gray/black.
Government regs Donna, the grey and black water tanks are suppost to be able to hold at least what the fresh tank holds. Never heard the heater tank being added though.
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There have been a few posts for filling tanks, be it a slow process or not filling all the way. I have a SD17 with a 25 gal tank and from what I've read it seems nobody can get more than 22 or 23 gallons in it even filling it at a dribble. The side hatch door by the tank gives you a great view of what's in the tank. I've never been able to fill it and when traveling on the road it tends to leak out the fill hatch. Has anybody found an answer to fixing this ? Never had this problem with any other RV I've had and I always run with everything full and ready to go as we dry camp.
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Government regs Donna, the grey and black water tanks are suppost to be able to hold at least what the fresh tank holds. Never heard the heater tank being added though.
That's very true on an original build, but when folks add an additional freshwater tank or keep adding water to the only freshwater tank, the graywater tank exceeds it's capacity.
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Government regs Donna, the grey and black water tanks are suppost to be able to hold at least what the fresh tank holds. Never heard the heater tank being added though.
The grey water tank on my Scamp can take all the fresh water tanks capacity as well as the hot water heaters capacity and then about another 8 gallons of refill of the fresh tank before it needs to be drained off.
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That's very true on an original build, but when folks add an additional freshwater tank or keep adding water to the only freshwater tank, the graywater tank exceeds it's capacity.
You are right on that and I'm guilty of that too, I doubled the fresh size once. I was just relaying factory tank size specs for capacity, fresh equals the holding tanks. Of course they never fill up at the same rate, grey wins ever time. I'd like to see just one holding tank because of that.
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Actually, my black fills up first. I've never had the grey fill totally.
The advantage of having separate tanks is you open the black tank first and drain, and then you open the grey tank, which flushes the slinky hose with soapy grey water.

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I know what your saying Glenn but camping with two daughters and my wife I never had the black tank fill up. But the grey always filled up but fortunately that's easier to drain off. Both were 20 gal tanks on that rig. Also what you say about draining the black first is correct, which is what I do. But I also use a spray wand and do a final half tank clean water rinse. Never had a problem with tank sencers or anything else tank related. Because of how I empty the tanks and do maintenance a single tank would be my preference.
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We do a lot of dishes outside. I have a stainless steel "sink" ( actually a piece of commercial kitchen ware ). I can place it atop my one-burner butane stove to heat water. And, where I camp I can toss the water on a thirsty bush. Or, I can carry it in a galvanized bucket to a sink ( Oregon State Parks ).
I have a daughter who doesn't camp with us and when she moved out of home, my hot-water bill went down significantly. We use campsite showers for the most part, or just wash our hair, using the outside shower.
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Good point on the gray and black water capacity.

I installed a 38 gallon gray water tank, also.

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I didn't bother with the black water, since I've never used it since I bought the trailer.

For me, the capacity is about knowing I have good, safe water. Chlorinated water makes me sick, and who knows if the camp stuff is good for drinking. I have 40 gallons of fresh water from my well, wherever I go.


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Chlorinated water makes me sick
Our municipal water is chlorinated and often straight out of the tap you can smell the chlorine. But, if you fill a pitcher and put it in the fridge, within a short time the chlorine is gone ( having been exposed to the air ).
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