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Old 01-12-2007, 09:44 AM   #15
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I use a 2003 Toyota Tacoma Quad Cab to pull our 5th Wheel. It works quite well. I get 19 to 21 MPG with the truck alone, and 15 to 18 MPG with the Scamp behind. I think it is an excellent combination.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:18 AM   #16
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Donna,

If I were a betting person, I would bet that you could special order it in the configuration U wanted. My Assumption was based on their picture on the web site.
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Old 01-13-2007, 01:04 PM   #17
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I use a 2003 Toyota Tacoma Quad Cab to pull our 5th Wheel. It works quite well. I get 19 to 21 MPG with the truck alone, and 15 to 18 MPG with the Scamp behind. I think it is an excellent combination.
Dennis,
Thanks for info. Do you have deluxe with "front bath"? If so, is the "bedroom" claustrophobic? The stair width in the picture looks quite narrow.

Also, what kind of mattress comes with the unit? We want an egg but are not exactly spring chickens.

If we need to get a different mattress, will it fit up the stairs?

Bon
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:16 PM   #18
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Bonnie,

We picked up a full size Novafoam mattress topper to go over the stock cushions from Costco. The box it comes in is fairly compact. You can just take it out of the box and let it roll itself out. It is a coupon special through this Sunday. They are quite comfortable.

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Dennis,
Thanks for info. Do you have deluxe with "front bath"? If so, is the "bedroom" claustrophobic? The stair width in the picture looks quite narrow.

Also, what kind of mattress comes with the unit? We want an egg but are not exactly spring chickens.

If we need to get a different mattress, will it fit up the stairs?

Bon
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:41 AM   #19
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Our 5th Wheel is the standard model with side bath. I am sorry, but I can not answer your questions related to the front bath model.

I do have a comment about towing with a Tacoma. My 2003 truck has a metal pickup box. The Scamp hitch mounts by bolting to the floor and wheel wells of the box. It seems to work well. 2005 and newer Tacomas have boxes constructed of a composite (plastic) material. I have not seen a Scamp hitch mounted in the newer units, but I am certain that some additional fabrication would be required to tie the hitch directly to the truck frame. This should not be a problem for a welding shop with some knowledge of engineering and fabrication, but the installation is not as straight forward as it is in other trucks.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:33 AM   #20
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We pull a Bigfoot 20' 5er with a 2004 Toyota 6 cyl x-cab. We have the factory tow package
and it rates us to pull 6,000lbs. We've not had any trouble with this configuration except that we found a slider hitch to be much better for us than a fixed hitch.

With a fixed hitch I have hit the corner of my truck a couple of times while backing and turning into my driveway at home. After getting a slider hitch and being able to move the hitch further back has solved that problem. Now I can jacknife my rig and still not damage the truck.

The hitch is bolted through the bed and to the frame underneath.

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Old 01-15-2007, 12:39 PM   #21
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2005 and newer Tacomas have boxes constructed of a composite (plastic) material. I have not seen a Scamp hitch mounted in the newer units, but I am certain that some additional fabrication would be required to tie the hitch directly to the truck frame.
We bought our Scamp used from someone with a recent model Toyota Tacoma with the composite bed. THe folk who installed their hitch welded "wings" on to the Scamp hitch base so it could be tied into the frame. Scamp also made some modifications, extending the "gooseneck" slightly and adding a high-lift axle so the trailer clears the bed sidewalls.

I actually kinda wish it wasn't lifted quite so much. It clears our Ford Ranger sides by a mile, but it makes for a bit larger first step up when getting into the trailer, and the feet at the back have to be chocked with 4x4 lumber before they'll provide ground support.

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Old 01-15-2007, 12:45 PM   #22
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...With a fixed hitch I have hit the corner of my truck a couple of times while backing and turning into my driveway at home. After getting a slider hitch and being able to move the hitch further back has solved that problem. Now I can jacknife my rig and still not damage the truck...
I assume that the Bigfoot uses a real fifth wheel (pin-and-plate arrangement), not a ball and socket coupler like the Scamp. Is that right, Paul?

A manual sliding hitch could perhaps be done with a ball hitch, by using a sliding baseplate arrangement intended for fifth-wheels, but with a "gooseneck" ball-mounting system. An automatic slider would be another thing entirely, and it's not obvious to me how that might be done. I suspect that just about everyone using a ball-and-socket in the truck bed (whether it is a Scamp 19' or a gooseneck trailer) just has the ball fixed in one location.

I think one of the reasons that Scamp went with a ball and socket, rather than pin-and-plate, is that those fifth-wheel hitches are typically unnecessarily heavy and expensive, since they are intended for much heavier trailers (typically 15,000 lb and up).
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:31 PM   #23
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I have a 2003 Deluxe Scamp 5'vr with a side bath.




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Old 01-15-2007, 08:32 PM   #24
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I have a 2003 Deluxe Scamp 5'vr with a side bath.
Beautiful trailer Wish it were mine
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Old 01-15-2007, 08:57 PM   #25
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Thanks Donna,

This is my first trailer and I have only had it about 6 months. Before going into the market for a trailer I did a bunch of research on trailers. I looked for a trailer that would hold value, was easy and safe to tow, light weight and was durable and I came up with a SCAMP 5'er. So I went looking for a used one, I almost went from Florida to Georgia and of course to Minnesota to buy one of these trailers. I watched the paper, Ebay, Craigslist, and all the large RV Trader websites I could find. I spent probably six months vigorously looking and finally all the waiting effort and persistance paid off. I found this one in Dallas on Craigslist with only about 10 words and a price with no pictures. I asked the owner for some pictures but all she did was refer me to the Scamp site and told me she had no way to send me pictures. Heck I had already been to the Scamp site but after talking to the owner I was convinced that it was in great shape so I went up to Dallas the next weekend and bought it. The best thing about it was the price and the worst thing was getting the hitch in the back of the truck. The owner didnt realy know what she had and was glad to sell it to a good home. After getting home and requesting Scamp to send me literature, this trailer had every option in it except a oven and it has the middle size refridgerator of the three offered. So after pricing all that stuff I came up with about 21-22k new, and I picked this one up for a bunch less then half that.
Heck I would have looked for a Casita 5'er if they made one.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:49 PM   #26
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My Tacoma is the 4 door with 5' box. In order to have clearance for the cab, I installed the hitch about 8" behind the Centerline of the rear axle. In the world of 5th wheels, this is not acceptable. My truck has a 5000# tow rating and a 500# hitch weight at the rear bumper. The hitch weight of my 5er does not exceed the limit and it is not at the rear of the truck. This arrangement has caused no problems what-so-ever
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Old 01-16-2007, 02:02 AM   #27
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I have a 2003 Deluxe Scamp 5'vr with a side bath.
Nice trailer! We bought a standard 5th wheel with side bath. Scamp seems pretty flexible about custom deluxe configurations so I'm not surprised to see a side-bath custom version like yours. I really like the kitchen layout of your deluxe model -- it better than the standard model, IMHO, with range and sink on the same side. You have a nice tall storage cabinet that we don't have.

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...In order to have clearance for the cab, I installed the hitch about 8" behind the Centerline of the rear axle. In the world of 5th wheels, this is not acceptable....
... but I think it is perfectly reasonable. Nothing in the real world is absolute - there are always shades of grey - and I think of this as just a compromise between the conventional fifth-wheel location (directly over, or slightly ahead of, the rear axle) and the conventional tag trailer location. As long as the truck and axle loads and ratings are all considered, this should be quite sound and perhaps the best solution for this particular application.

Thanks, Dennis, for sharing your configuration with us. I think that others have mentioned similar setups in previous discussions.
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