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01-07-2013, 11:06 AM
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Moderator
Name: RogerDat
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 3,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark J
I have been s l o w l y remvoving silicone. Does the belly band need resealing after removal or can it just be left "naked"?!
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I removed belly band on my scamp over the summer. Belly band "should" be cosmetic, not a seal. The top and bottom half of the shell are fiberglassed together on the inside to seal. The belly band just covers the ragged lip of the top and bottom pieces for looks. BUT.... my belly seam did have a small leak I found using a watering can so I removed the band and caulked and coated the seam under the band using adhesive marine caulk.
Replaced the band after the caulk was fully dry and set.
I think it was easier to get all the old caulk cleaned up with the band off so once I had enough caulk off to remove band that is what I did.
It was pretty easy to remove belly band, and easy to polish belly band while off, did have a couple of rivets sort of hidden in the door frame that needed to be removed. Band ends in a tab in the door frame.
Oh and it's a good idea to put a couple layers of masking tape on the side of the rivet gun when you rivet the band back on. To keep the side of the rivet gun from scratching the side of the camper.
Some people put a small bead of caulk along the top of the belly band to keep dirt from accumulating in that seam. Not sure the best caulk to use for that. Do know you don't want to do it on a hot sunny day because the caulk sets too fast (don't ask!)
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07-07-2013, 11:00 AM
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#62
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Senior Member
Trailer: 89 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 275
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I hate to beat a dead horse but we're going to look for some DAP and we're wondering what's best to use in its place. Most of our rivet caps and the plastic pieces they snap to are destroyed by sun. We don't want to re-rivet the whole thing just for this and thought we could just "glue" the caps over the rivets. Any suggestion on what we should use would be much appreciated. Is rubber butyl the most common choice?
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'Glass trips: Moab 03/10 * The Swell 5/26/11 * Antelope Island 12/21/11 * Strawberry Res 6/12 * Whitney Res 6/14 * Uintahs 7/15 * East Fork of Black's 6/16 * St Mary-Ennis-Lava 6/18
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08-07-2013, 01:58 PM
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#63
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Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Fiber Stream
Maryland
Posts: 35
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DAP - Silicone-Be-Gone - Gone
Just confirmed with the company here in Baltimore that this product is discontinued and any remaining on shelves at this point should not be sold because it would be out-of-date by a number of years.
Dave in Baltimore "DAP CITY"
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08-07-2013, 03:53 PM
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#64
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Senior Member
Name: Diane
Trailer: Casita, previously u-haul ct13
Virginia
Posts: 1,020
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I think "silicone- be- gone" is the best remover. Have used it after many other products on a mountain of old Silicon and glue. It must sit for a while before scraping it off. I found it on Ebay. They do not sell it anymore in the big box stores. Even if it's old it works, at least the two bottles I bought did.
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08-07-2013, 04:09 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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I read on a DIY forum that one can mix mineral spirits with talcum powder to make a paste, apply it to the silicone, then cover with plastic wrap. I have not tried it.
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08-07-2013, 07:41 PM
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#66
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas G.
I read on a DIY forum that one can mix mineral spirits with talcum powder to make a paste, apply it to the silicone, then cover with plastic wrap. I have not tried it.
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SOMEONE has to try this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, please, please let ALL of us know how it works MOST of us aren't looking for an instant solution, just SOMETHING that works!
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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08-08-2013, 10:00 AM
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#67
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
SOMEONE has to try this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, please, please let ALL of us know how it works MOST of us aren't looking for an instant solution, just SOMETHING that works!
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This was posted by a chemist.
It assumes that you have removed as much silicone as possible with a sharp piece of plastic. Evidently they actually make plastic razor blades for this kind of work.
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08-08-2013, 06:10 PM
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#68
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve and Rosemary
I hate to beat a dead horse but we're going to look for some DAP and we're wondering what's best to use in its place. Most of our rivet caps and the plastic pieces they snap to are destroyed by sun. We don't want to re-rivet the whole thing just for this and thought we could just "glue" the caps over the rivets. Any suggestion on what we should use would be much appreciated. Is rubber butyl the most common choice?
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I understand why you want to glue them on... I'd use:
Proflex caulking sealer
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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08-08-2013, 07:13 PM
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#69
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas G.
Evidently they actually make plastic razor blades for this kind of work.
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Yes, they do...
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...ass-25054.html
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08-11-2013, 11:11 AM
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#70
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Senior Member
Trailer: 89 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 275
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I've had trouble finding the DAP, even on eBay but it looks like a place in Canada called Canadian Tire may have it available. Anyone up north willing to buy a few bottles to send to a friendly (and ever so THANKFUL) neighbor to the south?
In other news, I tried the McKanica Silicone Caulk Remover Gel and it definitely softens some types of caulk a little but doesn't have a mind blowing effect. We have some more on there now to see if maybe I didn't apply it liberally enough....
If anyone would be willing to pick up some DAP for me, the Canadian Tire product number is 67-0809-0.
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'Glass trips: Moab 03/10 * The Swell 5/26/11 * Antelope Island 12/21/11 * Strawberry Res 6/12 * Whitney Res 6/14 * Uintahs 7/15 * East Fork of Black's 6/16 * St Mary-Ennis-Lava 6/18
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08-11-2013, 11:15 AM
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#71
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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You can buy it on-line, can't you? CT should ship.
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08-11-2013, 11:20 AM
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#72
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Senior Member
Trailer: 89 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
You can buy it on-line, can't you? CT should ship.
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I thought I'd try that but I didn't see a way to add to a cart. I'll look again. Thanks for the tip.
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LUCINDA 1989 Bigfoot 5th Wheel | Steve, Rosemary, Maude Pod & Tripawd Hope
'Glass trips: Moab 03/10 * The Swell 5/26/11 * Antelope Island 12/21/11 * Strawberry Res 6/12 * Whitney Res 6/14 * Uintahs 7/15 * East Fork of Black's 6/16 * St Mary-Ennis-Lava 6/18
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08-11-2013, 11:22 AM
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#73
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Senior Member
Name: J Mac
Trailer: 17b Escape
British Columbia
Posts: 125
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Goo Gone will remove silicone.
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08-11-2013, 11:30 AM
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#74
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Senior Member
Trailer: 89 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve and Rosemary
I thought I'd try that but I didn't see a way to add to a cart. I'll look again. Thanks for the tip.
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Just called their hot line and the gentleman I spoke with said that online purchases will not be possible for a few months. He also could not take and order over the phone so I'm left with calling a store. The only problem might be that they can't ship/sell to the States. Any thoughts on this?
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LUCINDA 1989 Bigfoot 5th Wheel | Steve, Rosemary, Maude Pod & Tripawd Hope
'Glass trips: Moab 03/10 * The Swell 5/26/11 * Antelope Island 12/21/11 * Strawberry Res 6/12 * Whitney Res 6/14 * Uintahs 7/15 * East Fork of Black's 6/16 * St Mary-Ennis-Lava 6/18
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08-11-2013, 11:49 AM
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#75
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Senior Member
Trailer: 89 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve and Rosemary
Just called their hot line and the gentleman I spoke with said that online purchases will not be possible for a few months. He also could not take and order over the phone so I'm left with calling a store. The only problem might be that they can't ship/sell to the States. Any thoughts on this?
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Called a store in Calgary and the manager is going to try to work something out on Tuesday. The problem is that they don't really have a way to accept payment except in person. She's thinking I could fax my DL to her for proof that I am who I say I am. Anyways, I'll keep everyone posted as to my level of success.
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LUCINDA 1989 Bigfoot 5th Wheel | Steve, Rosemary, Maude Pod & Tripawd Hope
'Glass trips: Moab 03/10 * The Swell 5/26/11 * Antelope Island 12/21/11 * Strawberry Res 6/12 * Whitney Res 6/14 * Uintahs 7/15 * East Fork of Black's 6/16 * St Mary-Ennis-Lava 6/18
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08-13-2013, 10:34 AM
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#76
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Senior Member
Trailer: 89 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
Goo Gone will remove silicone.
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Thanks for the tip -- I'll look into getting some of that!
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LUCINDA 1989 Bigfoot 5th Wheel | Steve, Rosemary, Maude Pod & Tripawd Hope
'Glass trips: Moab 03/10 * The Swell 5/26/11 * Antelope Island 12/21/11 * Strawberry Res 6/12 * Whitney Res 6/14 * Uintahs 7/15 * East Fork of Black's 6/16 * St Mary-Ennis-Lava 6/18
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08-13-2013, 12:06 PM
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#77
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve and Rosemary
Thanks for the tip -- I'll look into getting some of that!
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Please report back on your findings.
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08-13-2013, 07:25 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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Yes, we want to know if you find Go Gone to be helpful. It didn't work for me. I think I've tried every "normal" chemical known to man. Everything from acetone to WD40 to mineral spirits ...
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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08-13-2013, 07:42 PM
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#79
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,230
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I have successfully used Goof Off (or Goo Gone, just another brand) to remove silicone residue. We have to do this a lot when recaulking bathtubs and other fixtures. You do first have to remove as much as possible without damaging the substrate, but you smear in on, and a short while later go at it and rub the residue off with a clean cloth (not paper towel).
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08-14-2013, 08:35 PM
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#80
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Senior Member
Name: J Mac
Trailer: 17b Escape
British Columbia
Posts: 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I have successfully used Goof Off (or Goo Gone, just another brand) to remove silicone residue. We have to do this a lot when recaulking bathtubs and other fixtures. You do first have to remove as much as possible without damaging the substrate, but you smear in on, and a short while later go at it and rub the residue off with a clean cloth (not paper towel).
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I usually drape paper towel over silicone residue after removing as much as possible without scratching. Then I wet the towel with Goo Gone and let it sit for several mins. It will remove in time.
Goof Off and Goo Gone contain different contents. Goof Off may contain thinners. Goo Gone is just citrus. I'd stick with citrus.
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