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Old 08-03-2019, 05:40 AM   #1
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Small concerns with my new camper trailer

So I've had my 13' Scamp for a month now. Obviously we have used it with a discriminating eye and had a few findings. Overall it was great on our maiden voyage. I did have some questions for Scamp that they have answered. I'm wondering if any new Scamp owners can corroborate the info I received from my manufacture. I'm also interested in comments on the validity of my concerns. I wonder if this is very petty or if I have a legit gripe.

Problem 1 is the spare tire to trailer interface. I removed it when I put the trailer into storage only to find a brown imprint of the tire in the gell coat. I tried cleaning it but it is did not change appearance after scrubbing with a rag and marine wash. I'll try to post the picture that I have. I know that this will not hinder my camping enjoyment, but it seems to have left a mark on my soul. Scamp said they have seen this and that I can buff it out. I'll probably just ignore it at let my remorse fade over time. Anybody else have a similar decal placed on their trailer? Did you try buffing it out?

My second concern is with a bathroom wall. When cleaning the bathroom most of the walls were smooth, just as one would like in a bathroom. Those walls cleaned nicely. Unfortunately one of the walls (aft wall, port side) was rough. I was not happy with my cleaning ability there. It wasn't dirty, but is right next to the commode so I can see it requiring occasional attention. Scamp said that it is the design. I'm guessing the smooth side is inside the cabin facing the galley. Regardless my life experience says the bathroom wall should be smooth as well. So fellow Scamp owners (I kind-of like saying that) do you have a rough wall in your bathroom and if you do does it cause you any concern?

Finally, My water pump is awfully loud, to the point I'm concerned about agitating my neighbors during quiet hours, and I'm a bit embarrassed in general that my little trailer groans as it does. All the other campers seem quieter. Whatever, the water flows smoothly. Scamp said that the water pump does make noise, but they did not consider it too loud.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:58 AM   #2
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1. Yes, leaving the tire on the back will cause the gel-coat to get ugly. You can try to put something under the tire, and make sure it is very secure so it does not move, but at the very least you will get a "sun shadow" just like you will get under the decals. I also found dirt and leaves and bugs accumulating under the tire. Try some polishing wax or if you need something more aggressive, Bar Keepers Friend. BTW, I carry my spare in the tow vehicle for a few reasons of which keeping the camper looking good is but one.

2. Yes thats the way the bathroom is. Mine is clean but does have some marks on it. Its a camper so its fine with me.

3. Yes the pump is a little loud, but don't worry...your campground neighbors will be much louder ninety percent of the time.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:07 AM   #3
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Hi Tony
While we do not have a Scamp , the previous owner of our Escape thought the solid “pump to wood” mount on the water pump created excessive noise. He took a piece of one inch thick kneeling pad and cut it to fit. Then used longer screws, through the pad to remount it. I’d consider it pretty quiet now, certainly not up to disturbing fellow campers. This was the very dense pad, not especially comfortable on ones knees like the softer stuff but good as anti-vibration material. Hope this helps.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:24 AM   #4
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Iowa Dave & Gordon,

Thanks for the thoughts. A mounting cushion makes sense to quiet the pump. I'll look into that.

Photo of my tire mark. seems like they bolted the tire on too soon before everything set up.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:47 AM   #5
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The mark on the gelcoat is from the tire outgassing. As someone said, you can put something between the tire and the gelcoat. I've read where some are wrapping the tire in a plastic dry cleaning bag and then putting the spare tire cover over that. Good luck.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:52 AM   #6
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My Escape came with a large plastic garbage bag over the tire and the tire cover over that. Still no marking after ten years, but I should check the tire pressure.
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Old 08-03-2019, 11:49 AM   #7
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The pump noise is loudest to you, inside the Scamp. The vibration is amplified by the camper shell, and flat panels.
The pump itself should be mounted with rubber grommets.
The inlet and outlet hoses should have loops to help isolate the vibration.
And there should be a screen between the tank and the pump to catch debris before it fouls the check valves i the pump.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:26 PM   #8
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Another thing that will quiet down the pump is to add an accumulator on the output of the pump and connecting them with a flexible line like used on a toilet or sink.

Additionally it will deliver a few ounces of water before the pump cycles on.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:13 PM   #9
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On our Scamp 16 the bolts holding the spare tire have two nuts each. The inner one let's you adjust the clearance between the tire and trailer so the spare tire does not have to touch the gelcoat.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:20 PM   #10
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Mine is 15 years old and I look under the spare only when it needs to come off for use or replacement. I never travel without a spare.
Now there are a couple of concerns... the stain is really not one of them since it is almost always out of sight.
Make sure that the inner nuts are placed so that they take their share of the load and that the tire is snug against the hull but not adding much stress.
Loose can cause friction damage or stress cracks... too tight will stress the bolts inside the hull. The wheel should seat firmly against all three inner nuts with the outer nuts securely tight against them and the tire only "snug" against the hull.
As for the stain, it won't spread so you gave yourself the best advice...


Just ignore it at let your remorse fade over time.



The bulkhead wall is textured on the standard because of the process use to make fiberglass. It is not going to be a problem to keep clean, but only you can decide how you feel about it. No worry =no problem.


One small advantage of the Deluxe is that wall is smooth.
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Old 08-04-2019, 05:18 AM   #11
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Thanks all, I did notice that the pump noise is louder inside than outside. I will definitely look into controlling its vibration at the mounting bolts and the input and output lines. The accumulator may be a bridge too far, but I see how it would help.

The tire discussions were helpful. I think the scamp people should wrap the spare as you suggest. I will start doing that. I also appreciate the advice on placing the spare tire with the 6 bolts. I knew what the jam nuts were for, but I may have tried to use them to stand the tire off from the outside wall. Probably not a great idea.

As for the rough surface, the shower curtain can help me keep from fouling the wall. Iíll be diligent keeping it in place. That is easy to replace.

Sleeping better with my purchase. It is good to know that Iím not alone. Thanks again.

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Old 08-04-2019, 05:46 AM   #12
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.. I knew what the jam nuts were for, but I may have tried to use them to stand the tire off from the outside wall. Probably not a great idea.
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To be blunt, IMHO there is no "Probably" about it.. I have read many accounts of people who found the wood support for the spare and the table (which is glassed in the back wall), rotted from an undetected leak at the tire mounting bolts. A spare that is not tight against the body seems to be the common cause.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:24 AM   #13
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Another point...
Replace your shower curtain and rod using the longest cafe rod for the best overlap.
Use key rings instead of shower rings.
Use 1/2 of a clear shower liner which will cover the entire wall as well as the door.
This gives you better coverage, more room in the shower and eliminates shower curtain clinginess.
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Old 08-04-2019, 12:53 PM   #14
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I like it. Very helpful photos.

What’s a cafe rod? And why key rings?

Your wall looks nice and smooth. By the orientation it seems to be my least favorite wall.
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