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Old 10-11-2016, 09:53 PM   #29
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This guy claims to do it just fine (although he does complain about rear end sag). It looks like I'll need to install some firmer springs in the rear to avoid saggy butt.

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Old 10-11-2016, 10:50 PM   #30
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I've done this previously. I took the measurements and used the original main leaf. I went to the autowreckers (Pick ,n Pull) and bought a new leaf for each side, about an inch shorter each end, from a truck. Then I reinstalled the other two leaves under the truck leaf I put in. This gave me a coach height about two inches higher than spec and about four inches higher than the sagged height which is what I was looking for. This arrangement is also stronger so there is less chance you will break a spring on a rough road and stiffer so there is less bounce which means the things inside your unit are less likely to bounce around as well. If you want more height you can install the shackles from a truck on the rear of the main leaf. You may want to consider a taller tire for back country travel. A higher tire ply rating increases cargo loading and reduces the potential for overheating. Cheers!
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:15 AM   #31
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Subaru recommends 8-11% for tongue weight (2009-13 Forester, yours may be different) compared to trailer weight. Also, it is 2400 lbs, not 2500. With 200 lbs tongue weight I don't get sag (putting a lot more in the cargo area of the Forester will do it, though, and I have a 2012, which is a newer model than the 2008. I do not plan to max out the trailer weight compared to tongue weight, but if I did, it would be 8.3%. Keep in mind that once you add the 200 lb tongue weight you have only 1000 lbs of weight-carrying left for the Subaru which has to include all passengers and gear not in the trailer. I don't anticipate carrying more than 500 lbs counting me and the dogs and a little bit of gear.
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I think you'd be pushing it with the bathroom models and the Subaru unless you are very disciplined about not overloading and always dump all the tanks before traveling. But some of it depends on your camping style. Do you need propane and a battery? Do you need food for two days or seven days? Do you want to carry bikes for the kids? Are you planning to do camp cooking or is the trailer mainly for travel? Do you like to have a big food supply or shop every few days? There are ways to keep weight down but as the guy mentions in the Scamp-towed-by-Forester forum thread linked above, he wishes he didn't have to worry about it.
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The whole purpose of your trip is to have an enjoyable experience. Having an incident isn't an enjoyable experience. Planning is the way to keep this from happening. It works best if the weight of the vehicle towed doesn't exceed the weight of the tow vehicle. The towing capacity and weight carrying capacity of your tow vehicle are factors to consider but there are others. I sometimes tow my 26 foot trailer with my Ranger as it has the capacity to do this. My half ton GMC works better and my 3/4 diesel works better still. I always use a weight distributing hitch even when I don't need to because it effectively make the tow vehicle and the trailer a single unit and allows proper weight distribution for maximum safety. Consider where you want to go, the conditions you will be dealing with and how long you want to stay. Nothing should be maxed out. Give your self a safety margin and have a good trip. cheers
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The OP has a 2008 Forester, curb weight 3140. If he tows at the weight limit of 2400 lbs he's not over the vehicle weight. The vehicle is rated to carry 900 lbs on top of 300 lbs of driver/passenger so 1000 lbs total more if you subtract a 200 lb tongue weight for the trailer. That's inside the specs. As for whether it is fun or not- that would depend. I did not like towing my trailer with a Tundra because I don't like driving a big truck (and that's what I learned to drive on, a big truck, so it isn't that I'm not familiar with them.)

But I did say I think it would be hard to do with a family of four and a Scamp 16 with bathroom. I can't locate the dry weight of an older Scamp, but I think it would be hard to keep it down to about 2000 lbs which is about as high as I'd want to go.
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