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Old 05-31-2016, 05:40 PM   #1
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Subaru Outback enough to tow Scamp 13' ft.?

Hi all,

I had set my mind on purchasing a Subaru Outback, but one of the dealers told me it wouldn't have enough towing capacity on an incline (ascending or descending), even for the Scamp 13 ft.

Having said that, he works for a Ford dealership, and he was suggesting a Ford Explorer, but he happens to have a reasonably priced Subaru on his lot, and that's what I've been looking for (Outback) for the last few days.

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Thx., Margaret
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Old 05-31-2016, 05:56 PM   #2
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Go to a Subaru dealer, discuss your question and look up the towing capacity in an owners manual.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:32 PM   #3
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I'm assuming Margaret, based on earlier postings, that you're purchasing a front bath Scamp 13. In terms of total weight, I would expect around 2000 pounds loaded, which is well within the towing capacity of most late model Subaru Outbacks (it does depend on the year and engine, which you didn't mention). However the kicker could be tongue weight. The front bath model typically carries a bit more of its weight on the tongue, often 225-250 pounds, and I believe the Outback limits tongue weight to 200 pounds. I have also heard there is a caveat about a reduced tow rating when climbing long grades in high ambient temperatures.

If you Google something like "2015 Subaru Outback Owner's Manual" you should be able to download and read everything about towing straight from the manufacturer. I have found that more reliable than asking dealers, especially salespeople.

One thing to consider, since you're planning to full-time, is that tow ratings typically only include the driver and minimal cargo in the vehicle. Most full-timers carry quite a bit of cargo in the tow vehicle.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:46 PM   #4
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I'm assuming Margaret, that you're purchasing a front bath Scamp 13. In terms of total weight, I would expect around 2000 pounds loaded, which is well within the towing capacity of most late model Subaru Outbacks (it does depend on the year and engine, which you didn't mention). However the kicker could be tongue weight. The front bath model typically carries a bit more of its weight on the tongue, often 225-250 pounds, and I believe the Outback limits tongue weight to 200 pounds. I have also heard there is a caveat about a reduced tow rating when climbing long grades in high ambient temperatures.

If you Google something like "2015 Subaru Outback Owner's Manual" you should be able to download and read everything about towing straight from the manufacturer. I have found that more reliable than asking dealers, especially salespeople.

One thing to consider, since you're planning to full-time, is that tow ratings typically only include the driver and minimal cargo in the vehicle. Most full-timers carry quite a bit of cargo in the tow vehicle.
Darn.. I can't find the "LIKE" button.. and this sounds like some of the best advice I have ever seen here. So you will have to settle with

But I might add that staying comfortably under the max ratings makes for more comfort on the road.
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Darn.. I can't find the "LIKE" button.. and this sounds like some of the best advice I have ever seen here. So you will have to settle with

But I might add that staying comfortably under the max ratings makes for more comfort on the road.
Thanks!!

I think I'm going to find something with better towing capacity.

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Old 06-01-2016, 09:13 AM   #6
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Hi all,

I had set my mind on purchasing a Subaru Outback, but one of the dealers told me it wouldn't have enough towing capacity on an incline (ascending or descending), even for the Scamp 13 ft.

Having said that, he works for a Ford dealership, and he was suggesting a Ford Explorer, but he happens to have a reasonably priced Subaru on his lot, and that's what I've been looking for (Outback) for the last few days.

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Thx., Margaret
According to the Subaru website, a 2016 Outback has a towing capacity of 2700 lb and 200 lb hitch weight. Should be more than enough for a 13 ft.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:14 AM   #7
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We have a Scamp 13 w/ front bathroom and a 2015 outback. Traveled over Bighorn Mountains in Wyoming last year with absolutely no problems. We have the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:20 AM   #8
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I opted for a 6 cylinder Outback as it has a higher towing capacity. (3000).
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:21 AM   #9
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Jon is right, for my 2011, and I do not believe it has changed for later years. Here in Sacramento it is now getting up into the 100's. With my HC1 the tongue weight is not an issue, but with any of these trailers I think the 1350 in hot weather is harder to meet. I will find out soon how things will work out. It is into the 100's now here in Sacramento, though I did have a transmission cooler just installed. I am headed to the mountains tomorrow.


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Old 06-01-2016, 10:49 AM   #11
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I have an 07 Rav4 v6 that I use to tow a 4'x8' utility trailer. l recently helped a friend tow the trailer behind his 2015 4 cyl Outback to pick up two scoops of landscaping mulch (around 2klbs total). We were amazed that it was only able to creep up hills at about five mph. I realize this is a poorly documented anecdotal account but it was enough to convince me that I'd look elsewhere for a tow vehicle. Not sure whether the CVT is at fault or simply a lack of power. Or maybe I'm just used to the Rav.
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According to the Subaru website, a 2016 Outback has a towing capacity of 2700 lb and 200 lb hitch weight. Should be more than enough for a 13 ft.

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Good point Gilles... the tongue weights for Scamp 13s in the database copy that I have shows a range of 200-240... there are only five campers listed but NONE are under the limit (assuming it is 200 lbs.).
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Old 06-01-2016, 11:25 AM   #13
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I have a 2010 4 cylinder Outback and tow an 800 lb teardrop with it. Even though it is rated at 2000 lb capacity, I wouldn't want to go much higher than what I already do. Our teardrop doesn't have brakes, and it takes longer to stop the car. It also feels a bit taxing to the car, and I'm only towing at 1/2 capacity. My car just hit 120,000 miles and we bought a Tacoma to take over the towing job. I'd like the car to get another 120,000 miles, but don't think it would make it if I kept towing.

It is recommended to NOT tow at or near capacity, so I wouldn't recommend much more than what we are doing.

I like your idea to get a car with a bit more capacity. Maybe a v6 outback??? They can handle 2700-3,000 lb. Though I don't know what tongue weight they can handle. I agree to talk to a Subaru dealer, but beware, they are trying to sell you a car.
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Good point Gilles... the tongue weights for Scamp 13s in the database copy that I have shows a range of 200-240... there are only five campers listed but NONE are under the limit (assuming it is 200 lbs.).
When I sold my Trillium Jubilee to a lady with a Subaru Outback, after she informed with the company, they advised that if she had any problems, breakage on transmission, it was possible the warranty will not be honored.
If the tongue weight exceeds that identified by the company, the computer of the car has difficulty managing the traction of the car, which can lead to break in the traction system ...

That's what I knew.

My Jubilee weighed about 220 pounds on the tongue, she told me.
I had never weighed myself, I towed with a Dodge Caravan V6, 3.3 L.

The lady resold Trillium one month after having bought, it recently had to buy it and also decided to keep his other Trillium 13 ', it had not sold ...
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