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08-28-2009, 08:38 AM
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Good morning.
Well,tried sitting on the bed(covered with the cushions that make up the bed)and CRACK! went a corner.So,I need to replace it.I've noticed a few that have been re-done with what I assume are plywood replacements.
Could you wise people out there provide some enlightenment in "how to.."?
Thanks!
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08-28-2009, 08:58 AM
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Trailer: 84 16 ft Scamp
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When I retired I promised myself I would not get into 1) photography and 2) woodworking. Well, my kids got married and produced grandchildren and our kitchen needed some new cabinets.
Soooooo -- I used our poor old Scamp to learn some woodworking skills. Right now I'm on my third table. Each one is better; this last one is pretty good -- but I'm getting some other ideas again.
If you are not into woodworking yet, it might just provide a great project to get you started.
p.s. I still haven't got started on our kitchen and I'm starting to hear about it!
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08-28-2009, 09:08 AM
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Trailer: 1974 Boler 13 ft (Neonex/Winnipeg)
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I haven't made a table yet, but I could see making one with two somewhat-thinner skins, top and bottom, and then some "webs" of "1-by" wood inside to hold them apart. I think that would be lighter and stiffer than a "solid" plywood table of 3/4" or so. Or I suppose another way would be a somewhat-thinner top and then the "1-by" members underneath but no bottom skin.
The original table in my Boler ("wood" not FG) is not flimsy, at all, but it is HEAVY! Someday, for fun, I'm going to make a pile of all the original cabinet doors, compartment lids, and the table, and then weigh them just for fun They function just fine, but I bet there's some weight to be saved.
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08-28-2009, 10:10 AM
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Trailer: 1973 Compact Jr and 1980 Bigfoot 17 ft
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I made a table for the Compact Jr. from 3/4" birch faced plywood. The table is 36" x 22.5" and weighs 15 pounds. The weight includes 2 metal cups on the underside into which the pedestal legs insert. The plywood came from Lowes. I cut it to size with a jig saw and covered the edges with iron-on birch veneer tape. It's coated with clear polyurethane. It was an easy and fun project and has held up very well.
http://s293.photobucket.com/albums/mm41/to...psonphotos8.jpg
Tom Trostel
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08-28-2009, 10:15 AM
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Thats a nice job you did on table Tom.
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08-28-2009, 03:49 PM
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Trailer: 1981 13 ft Scamp / Nissan Titan
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We did almost the same thing as Tom with 3/4 Birch Ply, but I put an angle cut on the edges and sanded rather then the tape. You can get away with that if the Birch Ply is a good quality. I also cut a sharper angle into each bench for egress rather then the rounded like Scamp had. We did the same RV aluminum stanchions like Tom's.
I don't think I'd skimp on the table thickness or worry too much about the weight if it is your principal bed and there are at least two of you in it. The table takes quite a bit of stress when used as a bed and sometimes we have four of us in it in the mornings when the kids get up...
I do agree with Loren that this isn't our final table and we'll probably fashion one or two more when we get back around to it.
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08-31-2009, 05:00 PM
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Trailer: Boler 1984
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I think that your options are wide open. Here's one made from redwood fence boards with red cedar end pieces., and a homemade adjustable leg. A table rail inside and out gives you an optional placement while camping.
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08-31-2009, 05:22 PM
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Trailer: 1974 Boler 13 ft (Neonex/Winnipeg)
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I built hollow-core tables for a couple trailers; the frame is 1x lumber with 1/8 inch door skins glued on either side, with formica on top. Very strong, very light.
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That's what I had in mind, Steve; glad you posted.
(It wasn't so much for the overall weight savings - though that's nice - as much as for the ease in handling when you convert from table to bed and back.)
Raya
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08-31-2009, 05:35 PM
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Trailer: 1973 Compact II / 2001 Honda CRV SE automatic
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I LOVE tables like James has, to expand your outdoor living area but at the same time be a dual purpose item, very clever guys!
As for my table, so far it's held up well, and I always leave my dinette in bed mode. Mine must be fairly sturdy, cause I'm a pretty husky guy and it's never creaked or groaned at all...
Happy Modding!
Joe
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08-31-2009, 05:56 PM
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Jeepers!You guys are making this reno thing pretty easy!I thank you for the great ideas.
As newbies,we hope to meet some of you in the course of our exploring BC,Washington and California(I married a California girl!)and say thanks!!
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08-31-2009, 11:50 PM
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Trailer: 2005 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
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Raya, I totally agree that one of the great things about making a light-weight dinette table is that it is MUCH easier to move and set-up.
When we remodeled our dinette into a "U" shape we had to make a new table, too. Our table top is made of a 3/8" birch plywood top, topped with Formica. The underside has a 2" wide edge reinforcement of 3/8" ply to add stength and give the iron-on white melamine edge "banding" something to adhere to. We also built a "slide" mechanism out of plywood that allows us to slide the dinette table forward and backward by 3" to allow us extra room to slide in and out of the dinette.
Another thing I made (shown with the heavier table prototyoe I made from MDF) was something to support the angled nose of the table, which would flip the table upward if you leaned on it, and fill in the angle edges.
--Peter
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09-01-2009, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Attachment 23033
I think that your options are wide open. Here's one made from redwood fence boards with red cedar end pieces., and a homemade adjustable leg. A table rail inside and out gives you an optional placement while camping.
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Good morning.
That leg shown in your photo intrigues me.Did you make it or find it somewhere.If so,would like to know.Looks great!
Thanks
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09-01-2009, 01:53 PM
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Trailer: Boler 1984
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The top half is just a piece of 1x2 and the lower half is 1x3 with a 3/4x3/4 guide piece on either side to make a channel. I added a "T" piece on each end and fastened with a short piece of piano hinge. A wing nut on a bolt through a slot and it's complete.
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09-01-2009, 04:11 PM
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Trailer: 1981 13 ft Scamp / Nissan Titan
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Another thing I made (shown with the heavier table prototyoe I made from MDF) was something to support the angled nose of the table, which would flip the table upward if you leaned on it, and fill in the angle edges.
Attachment 23052
--Peter
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Where do you store that piece when not in use??
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09-02-2009, 12:24 PM
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Trailer: Trillium 4500
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09-06-2009, 12:15 AM
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Trailer: 2005 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
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Where do you store that piece when not in use??
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It stows under the street side dinette benches, but it's a little difficult to in there. Someday I am going to make a folding version that's easier to stow.
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