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Old 04-11-2013, 09:45 PM   #29
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It's very difficult to figure which tires are "best" since most are now made in Asia, usually China but not always. I expect I'll get the kenda radials, 205/75/14, since they come installed on a wheel.

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Can't help you there Sharon. I live in Les Schwab country. And since I travel were there seems to be a Les Schwab in every city... that's what I'll buy. My trailer currently is running Goodyear Marathons. Never had a problem when them, but they're also 15" tires. After all this time, I've come to the conclusion alot of tire problems occur when the asphalt is HOT. We don't see much of that here in the Pacific NorthWET.

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Old 04-12-2013, 05:55 PM   #30
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If trailer tires really do magically self-destruct at 6 years of age as some claim, an old tire used as a spare will fail on the way to the tire store.

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...He said the spare was only to be used to get us to the tire store. If you rotate your tires, and that means you do it, not just say you will, then buy three tires. Otherwise, I'd say buy two of the best tires you can afford and the cheapest spare you can get... it would only be used to get you to the tire store!
I understand and appreciate this reasoning. On the other hand, just as the plan to rotate three tires makes sense only if you follow through with it, this plan means that in case of a failure you will slowly and carefully proceed directly to the tire store. Temporary spares that come with cars are supposed to be used the same way, but I often see people in the morning commute driving at regular highway speed (not the max 50 mph / 80 km/h clearly marked on the tire)... and I doubt they are headed to a tire store.


If you do get a flat on a trip, do you wait for another carefully selected web-order or on-sale tire to arrive, or just pay whatever Fred's Tire in Nowhereville wants for an almost-matching replacement?
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:14 PM   #31
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Do the 14s" weigh a lot more than the 13s"?
A retailer (Princess Auto) of Carlisle load range C ST tires on steel wheels lists the combined weight as follows:
ST175/80R13 29.3 lb
ST205/75R14 40.44 lb
They don't sell ST185/80R13

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I expect I'll get the kenda radials, 205/75/14, since they come installed on a wheel.
Lots of trailer tires are sold complete with the wheel, especially by on-line retailers, and by stores which do not have facilities to mount tires on wheels. Princess Auto is an example of both, but is not in Texas; I'm sure there are local examples in most places.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:10 PM   #32
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IMHO, if a 14" fits, the only con to an existing 13" is buying new wheels. I'm not saying you can't get them, but I think 13" trailer tires are going to be a dying breed.

I believe you can't over tire a trailer, although it can affect ride, to a degree. I went from 13's to 10 ply rated 15's, but it's a bigger camper, also. 14's will do you fine and sounds like others have fit them. 14's should be much easier to find on hand, if you need one on the road.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:12 PM   #33
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I often see people in the morning commute driving at regular highway speed (not the max 50 mph / 80 km/h clearly marked on the tire)... and I doubt they are headed to a tire store.
With all the space saver spares at the local pick and pull, I have considered using four of these on the poop fly, my daily driver. Five if you include the spare. I don't go above 80 km/h on my commute. Might look kinda funny. It would mean no more trips to Seattle though.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:16 PM   #34
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My problem with space savers is they never have air in the damn things.

Speaking of which, I need to find a junkyard wheel for the car. When I change tires, I'm going to have an old tire put on it, and throw out the space saver.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:03 PM   #35
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I agree Jared. It's hard to justify putting new money into tires that are darn near impossible to find anymore. I'm also hoping getting radials will soften the ride a bit. One can hope, anyway...

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PS -- this goes under your previous post, not this post. Crazy blog.
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PS -- this goes under your previous post, not this post. Crazy blog.
There is a "Display Mode" drop-down menu at the right side near the top of the page. Although the default is to simply display the newest post last, it sounds like you want threaded mode, which is also available. I don't use threaded mode, because most posters don't attach their posts to the relevant post.
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:40 AM   #37
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With all the space saver spares at the local pick and pull, I have considered using four of these on the poop fly, my daily driver. Five if you include the spare. I don't go above 80 km/h on my commute. Might look kinda funny. It would mean no more trips to Seattle though.


One of the car magazines - I think it was Road&Track - was in a contest with other magazines to do the best customized car, and did an extra entry as a ridiculous low-rider... on space-savers.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:39 PM   #38
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The original post question was 13" or 14" tires. Will 14" tires fit on my 13 foot Samp?
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:21 AM   #39
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What problem going from 13" 4 hole to 14" 4 hole. I ask since I am replacing the original AL-KO axle with a new 3500 lb rated one and the only hub available is 5 lug.
Since I need to buy new wheels (tires too) now is the time to upgrade.
I am installing the Flexride adjustable axle and I can adjust ride height. The question is how much room for the extra diameter tires in the wheel well without raising the trailer too much?
I prefer to keep the center of gravity as low as possible to make the trailer handle better if possible.
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:13 PM   #40
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I am installing the Flexride adjustable axle and I can adjust ride height.
Realize the Flexiride axle is NOT a direct replacement for the original Dexter axle. The suspension arms of the Flexiride are 4 1/2" long whereas the Dexter uses 6" long arms. You have to relocate the axle 1 1/2" forward (if your Scamp uses a leading arm configuration) or 1 1/2" back if it uses a trailing arm configuration.
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Thanks for the heads up on the trailing arm.
The axle can easily be relocated forward. My axl happens to be an AL-KO, but I assume that the measurements are the same.
I might move the axle slightly to properly balance the trailer. I am in the process of a major rebuild and modifications.
I woudl use the AL=KO replacement or the Dexter, but I don't know exactly the angle of the trailing arm and therefore the trailer ride height,
As a part of the rebuild I intend to install a set of red AL-KO shockabsorbers. These clip into the euro AL-FO trailing arms, but with the removable Flexride arms I can machine the mounting grooves into the arms or weld them on.
I would like to add shock absorbers ad part of the modifications.
My worry is the rebound clearance for the tires to the top of the wheel wells.
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