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Old 05-11-2003, 03:50 PM   #15
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Raised Bed Idea.... a reality!

Hi Jana and JR, :wave

The raised bed idea is actually the mod that I'm working in right now. our project, when finished, will elevate the bed base to the height of the table top. We're going to use the underneath space for doggie or storage (which ever happens to be with us at the time.)

Keep in mind that the trailer we bought was destined for a gutting.....

Here's the plan and what we've done so far:


Prep work:
1. removed entire dinette, including the seats and the table top (done)
2. marked off height of table bracket (under rear window) all the way around the new bed area (done)
3. scored, scraped, and peeled back insulation foamy stuff to expose fibreglass shell (done)

ledge for bed:
3. fabricated curved wooden 'ledge' bracket for new bed (basically the same as the ones the seats are attacked too, just higher up the wall)
4. drilled through shell (yes, this was a bit scary at first, but we need to do some future bodywork anyway) and secured the new brackets using epoxy and screws (done)
5. lay down 2 layers (top and bottom) of course fibreglass and epoxy to thoroughly secure the ledge to the shell (half done)
6. remove the screws and fill the holes with epoxy (half done)

the rest isn't started yet...
7. build some support legs (metal, welded) that will rest on the frame of the trailer
8. build a bed-base support to hold up the plywood
9. cut plywood into a couple of pieces (so that it can fit through the door for installation)
10. buy a foam mattress, hack it to fit the curves, hack it into two sections to get it in and out easily, sew new matress-cover side-panels to fill in the holes I just made.
11. grab a sleeping bag and take it for a test drive!

Since we're planning on attending the Cache Creek camping trip in early august, we still have lots to do! :-)

This is my website for this reno project. I haven't posted pics in a while... I probably should. :-)
http://geocities.com/gregnmel/spring03reno01.html

If you're curious, The only part my husband is doing is the welding. I could weld too, but he thinks that's 'man-work' and I don't want to be better than him at EVERYthing. Hee hee hee.

~ Melanie
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:45 PM   #16
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That sounds like a lot of work. I thought to just extent up with the wood already there and not do a section again, but yours is probably more solid.

I started out planning a full queen up all the time, but a girlfriend that might go with me occasionally kept saying we might want to play cards. (what's wrong with outside? it might rain you say. awning room, I say) well anyway I think I'm doing the twin with table for permanent then have a fold section to make it queen. I don't think I'm doing it as tall as yours, but I might :) I've got it all in drawings.. I'll see if they will post.
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ebf093137541Picture1.jpg/> with the table out tan thing on left is a shelf above the window.
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ebf0952a39c0Picture4.jpg/> with just the board pulled out from under matteres
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ebf09796ee42Picture6.jpg/> with matteres flipped over and out - bed now close to a queen or king. about 75x73 everytings a snug fit, but I don't think it will feel tight. (I hope)
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Old 05-11-2003, 10:13 PM   #17
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Foam bedding

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Hi Melanie, when you cut your foam get rid of the axe (hacking) and use a electric carving knife....cuts like butter you can pick one up at yard sales for 2 bucks or so.
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Old 05-13-2003, 11:02 PM   #18
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I think I just did your mod, JR Holland. well close to it any way. I was trying to create a bed in a hurry. went to a second had store and bought three 2 ft wide doors. used two for the legs running from the wheel wells back with some boards to keep them on their edge. used the third with a 36 inch one I already had for the top then add the mattress and I'm done. I haven't thought out how to get to some of the storage yet, but I've got a bed, just in time for powwow. I probably shouldn't have all the storage behind the wheels anyway, I'd just pile it with stuff and get her too heavy. :)
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Old 05-14-2003, 08:47 AM   #19
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Cool! Lemme know how it works

I'd love to hear how it works before I actually try it. Enjoy powwow.
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Old 05-14-2003, 09:46 AM   #20
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While working on the bed, I noticed I kept bumping my head but only in certain places. (yes I'm a tall ol' gal, but not that tall.) Not by the door or in the middle, but in between. weird. then I noticed the standing water on the top. Hummm? :conf I got the two walls I had taken out of the trailer and tried to put them back. no go. the ceiling had dropped about 1 1/2 inches in the curve area before the ceiling went up in the middle for height. so the walls are reinstalled, with some muscle help from Tom, until I can do something else. I've heard people ask if this cabinet or that cabinet is needed, and now I say, If they go all the way up, probably.
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Old 05-16-2003, 08:52 AM   #21
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When I started looking for a trailer I really just wanted a comfortable bed out of the rain. I also really liked the idea of creative redos. I pictured a wild gypsy caravan. I was going to take out the closet and kitchen, possibly leaving the stove for rainy morning coffee making; install plywood bulkheads (with wild gypsy paint job)for roof support right inside the door and across the "hall" and have a kingsize bed. Turn the front bunks into a dinette and that would be it.

Well it didn't quite go that way. Steve had an opinion too. To my surprise he turned out to be a restore and preserve kinda guy. I must say it's easier. Since I was glad to buy a trailer that hadn't been altered much I thought better to play it safe till we use it awhile and see if we're going to keep it. We have changed the cushions, hinges, cabinet doors, and soon the table, but we kept the original parts and will store them (for awhile anyway) for posterity.
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Old 05-19-2003, 10:38 PM   #22
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When to stop adding

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I've soaked up every word in this thread so far--brilliant all of you.

I too want to replace everything I can with luxurious hardwoods and unnecessary brass fittings, but when is it necessary to stop--specifically, when is the carrying capacity of the frame and underpinings maxed out?

I've just had to had some major axel tweaking because the body sat so low that the tires couldn't be changed. I want to treat my Scamp gently so it will last for many years.
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Axle capacity

Hi, Cathy! :wave Welcome to the board. You'll find more great ideas here than can fit in one trailer. Lots and lots, from practical to fun.

Capacities. You have load capacities on your tires as well as your axle. I think that you will find that natural wood isn't as heavy as the MDF that is used in most trailers, so you should be okay there.

I had a 2200# axle on my 16', so I had a new 3500# axle put on and 14'' tires.

Okay. Now let me see what else I can add...... ;)
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Orginally posted by Cathy B

* * * * * * :shg *
I've soaked up every word in this thread so far--brilliant all of you.

I too want to replace everything I can with luxurious hardwoods and unnecessary brass fittings, but when is it necessary to stop--specifically, when is the carrying capacity of the frame and underpinings maxed out?

I've just had to had some major axel tweaking because the body sat so low that the tires couldn't be changed. *I want to treat my Scamp gently so it will last for many years. *
Hi Cathy
Its time to stop doing mods when you stop (Die).Carry on have fun and enjoy.Thinking up little things to do which will improve your lifestyle is what counts.
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Old 05-20-2003, 03:12 PM   #25
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Thanks to someone else's perseverance I now have a copy of the picture of Pete's bed. this is from the RatHaus. or Pete and the Rat Ladies.
(Hope you don't mine the theft, Pete) but I love this bed.
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3eca8b3daff53Rear Bunk.jpg/>
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