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Old 08-22-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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torsion springs or leaf springs

For a 13 foot Boler type camper. Leaf springs or torsion shocks? The price quoted for leaf springs is about $100.00 less than for torsion. Does it make a difference in function, pull, service, etc.

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Old 08-22-2012, 04:14 PM   #2
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I think the springs will give a harsher ride vs torsion axle, things inside may be jostled more, IMHO
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:17 PM   #3
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Torsion springs are generally independent - so will track better on rougher roads. Some of the more expensive torsion springs (Flexiride) can be adjusted for angle ie. will change clearance.

Leaf springs are generally cheaper and can be more easily adjusted ie. spacers, axle mounted under or over spring to change ground clearance, leaf added to compensate for added weight, etc. Leaf springs generally utilize a solid axle and therefore do not provide independent suspension.

Hope this helps.
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I think torsion axles will allow for a lower to the ground camper vers the leaf spring.
I think the leaf spring will not go bad as the torsion axles do over time.
Has anyone ever seen a leaf spring setup go bad?
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:09 PM   #5
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Leaf springs allow the easy addition of shock absorbers to lessen the bounce on rough roads. Raz
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:24 PM   #6
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I think torsion axles will allow for a lower to the ground camper vers the leaf spring.
I think the leaf spring will not go bad as the torsion axles do over time.
Has anyone ever seen a leaf spring setup go bad?
Yes, but then one can have a leaf spring re-built at a modest cost, torsion axle generally has to be replaced. I would say the torsion axle with it's independant suspension would give a less jarring ride to the trailer. Can't prove it though. Shocks & leaf springs might change that.

Unlike a utility trailer which drives around half the time empty a camper is always carrying a load. Utility trailer springs need to avoid being too bouncy when empty. For a camper springs would have to be designed with that difference in mind.
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In my humble opinion, single axle leaf springs are noisier, heavier, will bounce more and need more ground clearance than independent torsion axles. Adding shocks may improve handling, but the added cost will not match handling with an independent suspension.

Leaf springs will also have a bit of lateral flex and the axle will amplify the effect of a pothole or bump simply because it is connected to the opposite wheel. This will make your sway bar become VERY important (tougher handling with lateral wind, or bumpy roads in curves). If a frame is designed for torsion axle, I don't think converting it to leaf springs and axle is desirable.

In both cases, one thing to make sure is that the load capacity of the axle is matched with the real trailer load, since old RV tend to gain weight over time (more equiment, more cargo, adding a battery, a second propane tank, etc). For instance, I increased the suspension and axle capacity from 2000 to 2500 lbs on my boat trailer, and it made a world of difference on rough roads, even with a plain leaf spring suspension.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:38 PM   #8
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I've read that the rubber in a torsion axle stiffens when left sitting for long periods... it stays limber if used regularly and thus functions better for more years.

On the other side, spring shackles can squeak like crazy.
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I've read that the rubber in a torsion axle stiffens when left sitting for long periods... it stays limber if used regularly and thus functions better for more years.

On the other side, spring shackles can squeak like crazy.
I agree 100%... on my boat trailer, getting in and out of water, leaf springs noise is quite noticeable on bouncy roads. It does attract people's attention far more than my humble 19" sailboat.

It has been said several times on this forum that it is better to put an unused RV on blocks, for better life on tires and suspension (especially torsion axle). This is the ONLY preventive maintenance recommended on torsion axles, other than periodic repacking of wheel bearings. Torsion axles are SILENT, offer a much better handling and quite unlikely to fail.

I'm still using the original torsion axles on my 1977 Trillium and I'm very happy with it.
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My previous trailer had leaf springs. Quite correct on the noise, especially at the start of the season. I found a little WD40 would quiet then down. Brake noise seems to also attract attention. Unfortunately, WD40 can't be used to cure that. Raz
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I have had both and much prefer the torsion axle, is much less noise. the squeeking in our last trailer was horrible, I lubed it many times and didn't really help any , also i am quite sure the ride is better as things seem to move around much less in our tralier with torsion axles.
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Might want to consider the cost. Torsion generally costs more, people will generally only pay more for a product considered better by enough to justify the increased cost. Especially true when the product has a long track record to establish value.

I know our trailer repair guy was most impressed at how they put torsion axles on air streams way back in the day. Or even on my small scamp. I got the impression from his comments that it was considered a premium and advanced system.
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Leaf springs allow the easy addition of shock absorbers to lessen the bounce on rough roads.
Torsion axles provide some damping, not a lot, from the rubber inside them. Unlike leaf springs without shock absorbers fitted, which have virtually no damping (just a little bit of friction in the leafs).
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Suspension for eggs

Vibration is the enemy of just any hardware. Independent suspension and rubber torsion axles will not only last a very long time, they will reduce damages to your egg's shell and equipment because damping of road vibration is far better than with leaf springs, unless you prefer scrambled eggs !
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