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Old 02-19-2011, 01:23 PM   #29
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We rarely tow at 60 mph, usually between 55 and 60, reserving the higher speeds for the rare Interstate.

Actually we avoid Interstates, taking the more deserted excellent roads all over the country, like 17 thru central FL and US 17 from VA to GA or Rt 2 across the Northwest. The Interstates are fine for getting from pt A to pt B but that's about it. In general the wonders are not on the interstates.

To me an Interstate is just a place of higher stress.

If we're on any road and traffic builds behind us I follow the Oregon coast road rule and pull over at the first opportunity and let them pass.

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Greg H you are so right thank goodness not all road are 100 / 60 even; with a larger tow unit would not like to drive faster than doing now.

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Old 02-19-2011, 01:57 PM   #30
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My tow vehicle is a 1989 Volvo 740 with a "slightly" modifed 5.0L V8 (350+HP).
I tour Western Canada and the US car shows and my "new" 1974 Boler 1300 will be perfect. The Boler will eventually match the detail in my car, but that will come with time.



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Old 02-19-2011, 03:04 PM   #31
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Ian===you're looking good under the hood! Sweet! (Wish my house looked that clean!)
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Old 02-19-2011, 05:43 PM   #32
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My tow vehicle is a 1989 Volvo 740 with a "slightly" modifed 5.0L V8 (350+HP).
I tour Western Canada and the US car shows and my "new" 1974 Boler 1300 will be perfect. The Boler will eventually match the detail in my car, but that will come with time. ...
Very nice job. Nice headlight conversion too! Any pics of the Volvo and Boler together?
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:10 PM   #33
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I know that I will catch some flak here, but after 23 yrs in a semi I think I have it figured out, I tow at or near the posted limit anything less you become a road hazard waiting to be run over.
Unfortunately, here in California, the posted limit for semi trucks and autos pulling trailers is just 55mph, which forces us to be a speed bump most of the time. Most of the traffic merging is going faster, and every now and then a giant fifth wheel toy hauler flies by in the fast lane going 75 or so. Keeps things interesting!

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Old 02-19-2011, 09:35 PM   #34
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I tow the '84 Scamp 13 with a 2009 Scion (Toyota) xD.



Sorry, I don't have a better pic right now. I just bought the Scamp about six months ago and most of the pics I have were early on, before I beautified it and before I had the new suspension on my car (it came with the lowered "Sport" suspension).

Here's a pic I took in December when I installed the awning:

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Old 02-19-2011, 10:04 PM   #35
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Jesse----great pics! Very nice awning!
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:15 PM   #36
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Very nice job. Nice headlight conversion too! Any pics of the Volvo and Boler together?
Thank you for the comments. I just bought the Boler so no pictures of them together yet (today it is -20C with snow) the car is in storage for the winter ... but come spring I am looking forward to many camping trips. Good eye on the headlights, not many people notice, they are from a Mercedes-Benz W123 model
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:24 PM   #37
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Unfortunately, here in California, the posted limit for semi trucks and autos pulling trailers is just 55mph, which forces us to be a speed bump most of the time. Most of the traffic merging is going faster, and every now and then a giant fifth wheel toy hauler flies by in the fast lane going 75 or so. Keeps things interesting!

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I was in Ca, last week for the first time since 1988, I always said I wasn't going back. It really was not that bad but now I know why they always had hundred car pileups on the show " chips".
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:11 AM   #38
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:12 AM   #39
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I pulled Our Trillium 5500 for many thousands of miles with a 1995 Lumina Mini-van.
It worked fantastic until last year when I noticed that I was borderline on power and temperature. Keep in mind, as of last year I had 315,000 Km or 196875 miles on my Lumina, all original driveline. I added a transmission cooler, even though it had a factory one.
My tow set-up includes an anti-sway bar (one sided) and a prodigy brake controller. I blew a tire two years ago, and only noticed the Bang when the tire blew, no sway or tugging whatsoever.
I quit buying air shocks ($400.00/pr.) and installed heavy duty overloader shocks with coil over springs. (rougher ride when not towing).
I generally tow at the posted limit ( it keeps me out of the race pack). I have been cut-off, forced to the shoulder, and hit by debris and animals, but have not had anything cause me to lose control.


I average 30 MPG (Canadian) when not towing and about 12-15 when towing.
this has been a steady decrease from the 18-19 I first got when the van was new.
I attribute it to age and mileage.

However , all good things come to an end, and as much as I love my Lumina, I will be retiring it in the spring, and replacing it with a new to me 2006 Envoy Denali V8, which is currently sitting in my driveway awaiting the disappearance of snow and salt from our highways. I got a fantastic deal on this very low mileage Envoy, and i am hoping it works out well.
I will post more on the Envoy when it is being used.

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Old 02-24-2011, 05:02 PM   #40
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Normand,

I'm curious to know what kind of mishaps you had towing with your CRV. It's important to learn from the experience of others.
The section (a big hole under the carpet) where the spare was originally supposed to be on a 2000 CRV (basically a Civic "frame" I think) started do "unwelder" under the stress of the Trillium (that I evaluated to really be near 1500 lbs - weight on the tongue was about 200 lbs). I also had a hitch problem (a class III brand new hitch).

All the back section of the CRV had to be reinforced and plates were weldered on the floor and long bolts (up to the floor) installed to properly retain the hitch. Nothing could be done to reinforce the CRV's shocks who also are not appropriate. The rear section of a CRV is simply too weak to safely tow (in the real world) a 1500 lbs trailer. Those SUV do not have a proper and real frame. They are a unibody construction.

I had everything repaired but enough is enough. I stopped having problems when I bought the Pilot. I also got a weight distribution system that I recommend to everyone who tow with marginal towing vehicle.
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Old 02-24-2011, 05:25 PM   #41
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1997 Kia Sportage 4wd 4 cyl towing 1977 Trillium 4500.(1400 lb curb weight)
Kia tow limits per mfr.: 1000 lbs without t.brakes, 2000 lbs. with t. brakes.
4wd on this relatively light vehicle has been a necessity for the kind of remote camping we like to do. I'm not sure we'd have gotten up some of our favorite logging roads without it.
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Old 02-24-2011, 05:39 PM   #42
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Thank you for your response. Your problem didn't seem to be towing problems (trailer actions) but rather tow vehicle structural problems. I will check the structure of our 7 year old Tow Vehicle for broken welds.

I paint the bottom of our Honda every year (I'm an anti-rust fanatic) and have never seen any problem but will look more closely this time.

We did experience a broken hitch at the third tie point (car tow hook connection) after our trip to Labrador. probably due to vibration on the Trans Labrador Highway. This failure, not seen until we reached NH, did not have much effect on hitch performance.

We recently purchased a Scamp 16 rather than a Casita 17 because we feel the Casita's hitch weight is excessive.

We love your Honda Pilot. Unfortunately we can not justify such a large vehicle on a mpg basis with the direction of the oil economy. We're holding out for an all electric vehicle targeting 2016 as a possible transition time.

When I look at trailer accidents they seem to more frequently occur with trailers heavier than ours and frequently where the trailer weighs more than the tow vehicle. The other group of accidents I see are when trailers are flying along at high speed, where reaction times are more critical and system energy levels significantly higher. I have no quantitative proof.

Safe travels to you and all, I'll report on what I find under the Honda.

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The section (a big hole under the carpet) where the spare was originally supposed to be on a 2000 CRV (basically a Civic "frame" I think) started do "unwelder" under the stress of the Trillium (that I evaluated to really be near 1500 lbs - weight on the tongue was about 200 lbs). I also had a hitch problem (a class III brand new hitch).

All the back section of the CRV had to be reinforced and plates were weldered on the floor and long bolts (up to the floor) installed to properly retain the hitch. Nothing could be done to reinforce the CRV's shocks who also are not appropriate. The rear section of a CRV is simply too weak to safely tow (in the real world) a 1500 lbs trailer. Those SUV do not have a proper and real frame. They are a unibody construction.

I had everything repaired but enough is enough. I stopped having problems when I bought the Pilot. I also got a weight distribution system that I recommend to everyone who tow with marginal towing vehicle.
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