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01-07-2019, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Fredrick
Trailer: Escape 21C
Tennessee
Posts: 322
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Trailer skirts??
Looking for an easy to use " trailer skirt" to use in cold weather to help keep the Casita underbelly warm and the plumbing functional, while camping in cold weather. Any thoughts?
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01-07-2019, 09:05 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 1,773
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Try using bales of hay
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01-07-2019, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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Bales of hay or straw banked up with snow
Both make excellent insulators
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01-08-2019, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bill
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
The Mountains of North Carolina
Posts: 4,143
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Search youtube for Keep your daydream winter camping.
They do a nice recap of skirting and other issues for winter camping.
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01-08-2019, 07:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,962
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I agree straw is best, but it hardly qualifies as “easy to use.” It would take a couple of pick-up loads. Best for a semi-permanent set-up.
Fred, how do you plan to use this? What kind of cold weather camping are you planning?
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01-08-2019, 08:38 AM
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Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
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A lot will depend on the temperatures you are in. If you are in temperatures where it rarely warms above freezing during the day, there will be no easy to use solution unless you had a method of pumping heat underneath too. Anything with good insulating value, like the straw mentioned above, is not that easy to use, but fine for a permanent setup. Even with good insulation a bit of heat is needed to keep things from freezing underneath. You might get enough transferring through the floor, but that is not enough in real cold weather.
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01-08-2019, 04:09 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Fredrick
Trailer: Escape 21C
Tennessee
Posts: 322
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straw
Naah, we're looking for something to take on and off while camping, moving the TT, etc. straw wd not wrk
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01-08-2019, 05:06 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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I have a friend that's full-timing in her trailer in Canada. Land of cold and snow. She's not in an all-molded-towable though. She IS a traveler, but will be staying in one place for at least a month. She bought and installed RV skirting from this company. She says they have stellar customer service and they give free estimates:
Trailer Skirting for Your RV by Kimbers Creations
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01-08-2019, 07:38 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (want 13 ft fiber glass
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I wonder if several of the light weight swimming pool air mattresses, wedged upon their sides would be a possibility, (you would want a small aircompressor though).
Dave & Paula
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01-08-2019, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David B.
I wonder if several of the light weight swimming pool air mattresses, wedged upon their sides would be a possibility, (you would want a small aircompressor though).
Dave & Paula
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Good thinking outside the box.
There is a problem with your suggestion. The tubes of air are too big to provide any insulation. Good insulation is generally comprised of very small areas of air containment. This prevents eddy currents with transfers heat between each side of the air mattress so that both sides are equally cold.
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01-09-2019, 12:24 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
Posts: 3,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
There is a problem with your suggestion. The tubes of air are too big to provide any insulation. Good insulation is generally comprised of very small areas of air containment. This prevents eddy currents with transfers heat between each side of the air mattress so that both sides are equally cold.
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Might not be much for insulation but would make a contained area on the underside keeping the wind from blowing through. Add a drop light and that may be all that it takes to keep the temp up enough for what the OP is looking for. Sure would be cheap to try out....and roll up small for storage .
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01-09-2019, 12:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Borrego Dave
Might not be much for insulation but would make a contained area on the underside keeping the wind from blowing through. Add a drop light and that may be all that it takes to keep the temp up enough for what the OP is looking for. Sure would be cheap to try out....and roll up small for storage .
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Keeping the wind out might help. However you can accomplish that with a small roll of 4mil plastic.
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01-09-2019, 12:30 PM
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Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
Keeping the wind out might help. However you can accomplish that with a small roll of 4mil plastic.
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Any stopping air flow is even more important than insulating, because if the heat easily escapes, the effectiveness of the insulation does not really matter.
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01-09-2019, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Fredrick
Trailer: Escape 21C
Tennessee
Posts: 322
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air mattresses
Good ideas..the 4 mil plastic sounds good..not take up too much space either..Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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01-09-2019, 03:10 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
Keeping the wind out might help. However you can accomplish that with a small roll of 4mil plastic.
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Yes, but attaching and supporting it is the problem.
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01-09-2019, 08:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Lil
Trailer: '84 13' Scamp & '14 homebuilt Benroy Teardrop
Minnesota
Posts: 347
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How about some foam board insulation...something like this 1"x2'x8'. https://www.lowes.com/pd/R-Tech-Comm...lation/3014678
Can be cut with a knife.
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01-09-2019, 08:50 PM
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Trailer: Escape 17 ft
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I'd put it in a heated garage, myself.
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01-09-2019, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I have a friend that's full-timing in her trailer in Canada. Land of cold and snow. She's not in an all-molded-towable though. She IS a traveler, but will be staying in one place for at least a month. She bought and installed RV skirting from this company. She says they have stellar customer service and they give free estimates:
Trailer Skirting for Your RV by Kimbers Creations
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Looks to be a well made product. Watching the video and noting the claim for "exclusive R17" insulation I heard the very distinctive sound of Reflectix when she was installing one of the panels. The double bubble Reflectix claims the upper end of insulation value as being exactly R17. Of course they are also claiming that it reduces the heat in the summer. So yep, must be Reflectix in that sandwich of materials.
I do think it is a very tidy looking product that is easy to remove and put back on and it will certainly block the wind and have longevity of service.
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01-09-2019, 11:05 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
Yes, but attaching and supporting it is the problem.
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It could be supported with a frame of pvc pipe. The pipe does not have to be glued together. Slip joints so that it can be disassembled and stored. Stitch rod pockets into tarp fabric rather than using clear plastic. Leaving a flap at the base of the fabric pieces to pile snow or dirt onto it or alternately putting grommets into the flap so that it can be secured down with tent stakes. While it won't be air tight it will block the majority of the wind. To add additional ability to hold it in place you would add more grommets around the top to tie it to the bumpers and axle.
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01-09-2019, 11:31 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k corbin
It could be supported with a frame of pvc pipe. The pipe does not have to be glued together. Slip joints so that it can be disassembled and stored. Stitch rod pockets into tarp fabric rather than using clear plastic. Leaving a flap at the base of the fabric pieces to pile snow or dirt onto it or alternately putting grommets into the flap so that it can be secured down with tent stakes. While it won't be air tight it will block the majority of the wind. To add additional ability to hold it in place you would add more grommets around the top to tie it to the bumpers and axle.
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How do you drive tent stakes into or shovel frozen ground /earth ?
When we camp in the winter we use a dome tent .
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