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Old 10-21-2011, 02:15 PM   #1
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Trails West Pop Top Weather Seal

I am looking for a source of pop top weather strip similar to that originally used on the 1970 Trails West Campster.

It is about a .5 inch bulb seal with .5 inch lips that come up each side of the fiberglass.
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:19 PM   #2
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Mark, This company has many kinds of trim. I've purchased trim a coupla times and they are very prompt.

1/16" BLACK Edge Trim Seal Lock RV Camper Lok 3/4" C | eBay
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:32 PM   #3
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It is the same as VW poptop seals, it isn't just edging but has little metal clips to hold it on, it comes off because they rust out after about 30 years. Google VW poptop parts. You can also find parts for the poptop mechanism that way.
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:27 PM   #4
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Mark, This company has many kinds of trim. I've purchased trim a coupla times and they are very prompt.

1/16" BLACK Edge Trim Seal Lock RV Camper Lok 3/4" C | eBay
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Great lead. I will be doing some measurement. Looks like what I need they carry. My pop-top has a lip on it.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:27 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info & link. (I had searched for weatherstrip & bulb seals, but not "trim".) I presume the crimp on the seal is water tight in this exposed and vertical position.

On my Trails West #267 the original (I presume) white bulb seal (now painted over) is well glued / bonded to the fiberglass & secured at corners with screws or rivets. The top may have a manufacturing flaw as the fiberglass lip that the seal attaches to on the pop top is shorter at the center front where the seal ends come together, allowing a good sized gap. The bulb seal in the link Keith provided may be large enough to take care of the gap by itself.

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Old 10-27-2011, 05:32 PM   #6
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Teri, the dimensions on mine are: Bulb .625 (5/8) / Lip .625 (5/8) and .1875 (3/16) thick on the fiberglass. I will go up to a bulb of 1-in and a 3/4-in lip.

I called the maker of Trim-Lok products (Tel: 714-562-0500) and they sell only full reels of 125 feet in these sizes, but recommended trying Austin Hardware & Supply in Chambersburg, PA (800.634.4293) Austin Hardware & Supply, INC
as they recently purchased full reels in these sizes. I plan to soon order 17 feet of 100375B3X3/16C black Pebble finish vertical bulb w/ alum clips.

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Old 10-28-2011, 02:00 PM   #7
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The Austin Hardware source sold all the larger size of the number I gave above. I may call back to see if they have the smaller size.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:14 PM   #8
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A better measurement of the lip on mine shows 1/8in. I ordered a 25ft length of 1/8 with a 3/4 bulb seal from McMaster-Carr McMaster-Carr

The link Keith provided is a much better buy -- if a 1/16 thickness will work. (The vendor, R and P Carriages, did not have 1/8.)
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Mark, I am going to order from R and P. They have what I need as my pop-top has a lip on it. I just have to get it done. Maybe now! What a thought.
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:42 PM   #10
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Teri, what is the thickness of the fiberglass lip & what is the gap like when the top is clamped? (The 1/8 seal just fits mine.)

I may need to extend the lip a 1/4 inch as it is bit shorter at the front center. First I need to router an edge on the pop up section's wood frame for a better fit & more even gap as it is catching on the lower fiberglass & not sealing as tight as it can against the lower wood frame.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:44 AM   #11
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Weather seal done

Well, I got the weather seal from R and P on Friday and went out this afternoon and put it on the pop-top. It is 1/8 in and was a bit tight. I have one spot that isn't on all the way.

I will get pics tomorrow I hope. I need to get out there and finish sewing the replacement canvas.

I am glad to have the weatherstripping done, the top feels tighter and hopefully won't have any problems with the framing for the pop up mechanism.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:46 PM   #12
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Teri, you can sand the lip to thin it out where you need to get your seal to fit.

I've reworked the lip on mine, adding & deleting material where needed for a more consistent gap. (Using a cardboard template cut for min / max gap for a quick check.)

Parchment paper over a board acted as a form for adding material. Grayish material is the extended / squared up lip at the middle front. (I use Everglass Fiberglass Reinforced Filler by Evercoat -- easy to work & shape for filling voids, cracks, holes or adding material.)

The roof on my Campster undulates with high points at the structural cabinet verticals. Blue tape indicates an area marked to remove material with a Dremel Tool & sanding bit.

Currently I'm sanding & prepping for paint on the top before installing the slightly larger black bulb seal pictured with the original.

I'm also adding (and removing) wood where needed to the upper frame and have added a foam strip to the lower frame to create a dust seal there. This buildup is also providing a needed increase in tension on one of the hold down latches. (BTW these are same as Jeep hood latches, with many sources at a modest cost on EBAY.)

Hoping these details & attached photos may be of use to another Campster owner. The pop-top is clever, simple, and effective, but mine requires custom fitting for a good seal. With the wood cabinetry being a structural element, keeping it dry is a primary need.

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How are you all managing working on the poptop? Especially the back part? I can't reach all of it very well and I am reluctant to put any weight on the roof.
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Bobbie,

I used a ladder to get to the exterior sides of the pop-top. It wasn't much of a reach.

Mark here are some pictures of the weatherstripping installed. I didn't take a picture prior to putting on the weatherstripping. The seal with the 5/8 inch bulb looks good on the top now.
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