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Old 01-16-2016, 01:37 PM   #15
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Hello, So I haven't posted in a while or given any updates but I have been slowly working along. My Trillium 4500 had almost no wood left inside of it. The floor in the front under the bunks as well as the plywood under the rear bed was completely rotted away.


We're going through essentially the same thing...one bad surprise after another over the fall months, now a gutted shell in the process of repair while we wait out the cold weather and downpours. Sometimes Paul's able to get out there and patch a few holes--there were nearly 3 dozen...some very small, some huge.

Best of luck to you! Don't know HOW you managed to get the ply out and leave the furniture in! We didn't make it.

Thanks for all the photos!

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Old 01-16-2016, 07:11 PM   #16
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I'm at the same stage on mine also........nothing quite like the feeling of pulling up your linoleum & finding what used to be plywood.

Look at the bright side, when you're finished you'll have a camper that's better than new and built to fit your needs.
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Old 01-17-2016, 12:57 PM   #17
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Rotted floor on 4500

Ironhinge - why did you go looking at the floor in your 4500? Did you suspect some problem from a particular symptom or did you stumble on the wood rot by accident? We have a 1977 Trillium 4500 - are newbies to these little trailers - it looks to be in excellent shape and we have no suspicions of problems. Are we living in a fool's paradise given the age of the trailer or is it possible that we did actually get a super Trillium? I'm afraid to post this.........fear the responses!
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:55 PM   #18
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As far as the furniture removal I was somewhat lucky that the floor under the kitchen was intact. I trimmed the corner of the closet out to pull out the full width near the door and left a seem in the middle of the floor. So essentially I pulled a 4' by 4' section in the front curb side of the trailer. I think the seam will be fine because I hope to fiberglass the floor back to the way it was and it should bond the pieces.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:58 PM   #19
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The 6th photo down shows the corner I trimmed out. In order to replace it I jacked the roof up to take the weight off that corner and left it untill the fiberglass relaxed (a few warm days) enough that the piece fit back in. I feathered out the edges of the joint and fiberglassed it back into place. It seems like it is taking the weight again.


In the back under the bed the plywood is actually pretty small pieces. in the middle under the floor is a space for the water tank, the furniture and fiberglass shell are bonded directly to one another in this area so by grinding the walls smooth I was able to fit 2 pieces in though the top of the seat to replace the one that had been bonded in.
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As far as better than new thats what I meant about eating my words... I still believe that at the end of the tunnel is a project I know. Knowing not only the quality of the work but also how to address problems if they arise. Still the scope of the project is overwhelming... what I am trying to do is say thank you for the encouragement!

It has been interesting comparing my work to the original factory work. Ill do something and look at it criticly, planning to carve it back out and do it again... then I will get a chance to look at the factury work and I need to think about it again. I keep on balancing what I think is good enough vrs what has held together relatively well since 1977... I have been finding myself trying to pick my battles.

I used marine plywood in the floor because I do not want to do this again but the gel coat I bought does not match, one day I might like to pull all the windows again and paint the whole thing...
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Barbara, something out of the ordinary happened with my trailer. I looked and looked and haven't seen a trillium on the forums with rot like I had. My floors mostly came up in soggy handfulls it became pretty obvious there was a problem when I went to clean the spaces under the front bunk... the rear bed/dinette escaped me originally because the plywood there is fully glassed over. Tapping on it however sounded hollow and i could bend the glass by pressing on it.

If you wanted to check for trouble I would start at the windows... are they calked on the outside? (bad sign) if you press on the ensolite around the windows especially at the corners are they soft at all. Do the curtain rod hangers wiggle?
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:02 AM   #22
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Rotted window frames are not too difficult to fix. What you have done Matthew is heroic. Do you have any over all views of when you had the floor torn up? How close to finishing are you?

Any idea of how it got this bad? I have seen water damage in side the gaucho and dinette seats, but to have the whole floor rot is nothing I have had to deal with.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:46 PM   #23
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I'm at the same stage on mine also........nothing quite like the feeling of pulling up your linoleum & finding what used to be plywood.

Look at the bright side, when you're finished you'll have a camper that's better than new and built to fit your needs.
David T, SteveV, Leonie B, and all:
Hi, never considered replacing the plywood to be "heroic," but will pass that on to Paul, who has been working his fingers to the bone doing what he can in the cold garage and inside the pumpkin shell. Most of the work is yet to come...what do they say?
History is prelude?

Heroic. He'll like that! He can use it on such a chilly, dark day!

You too, SteveV -- and all those who are going or have gone the total distance!
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Well, Kai, it has to do with how Trillium's are made. They have an outer shell, and the bottom has a double shell. That is, the floor, and furniture form an inner shell. The plywood being replaced is sandwiched between those two layers. to get out the plywood, it is necessary to mutilate the interior. There will be lots of fibreglass work to get the interior back together.
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Sure; didn't know the Trillium furniture could mostly stay put though, yes, did know you'd have to cut it free from the floor.

It's hard to see one's cute little trailer mutilated! Very hard!

I borrowed the term for Paul...it made him energized to go out today and do more work in our totally gutted amerigo.

Our "furniture" could not stay--every stick that touched the floor had to be dismantled and pulled out. It was nice to be able to give him that gift of praise, something I hadn't thought of saying to him.

I've already baked him cakes, made him comfort-meatloaf, and offered other rewards...

We agree it's a heroic job to do a complete plywood replacement.
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Paul is a lucky guy.
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I'm about to pull the trigger on a 1977 Trillium...I was told by the owner that the only wood in the trailer was around the Windows. (Which he replaced with pressure treated wood) now I'm worried about the floor, he said it was all fiberglass. I'm getting nervous after reading this.
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Hi, Debbie,

When you say "pull the trigger," do you mean not buy it, or buy it?

There ARE fiberglass panels used for floors; they don't rot. It's possible the entire floor
is fiberglass.

The floor should feel pretty solid, no real bounce anywhere. The trailer should smell OK inside, not have some weird "odor." Rot smells, but it's not necessarily the smell of mold per se. It can be a little muskier than that.

If you're having 2nd thoughts, visit the trailer a few more times if you can and pry around, poke into and under and behind everything you possibly can, with the owner
out of the trailer if you can manage that. Bring a friend, find an older person who maybe knows something about this.

Replacing an entire floor is a BIG undertaking. But if it's OK, then, well, it's OK.


Wishing you good snooping and a good purchase when you decide to make one.

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