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Old 04-06-2011, 04:18 PM   #15
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Randy has posted pictures of some of his beautifully restored Trilliums in his "My Trillium Herd" thread. You won't find nicer restorations- perfect right down to the Factory Installed Door "alignment"! Somebody at Trillium Canada was OR when they built those molds back in the '70's...

See thread at My Trillium Herd!!!!!

Now that spring is coming, I am getting ready to do many projects on the trailer, including solving the door closing issue. So, Randy, how did you get the door aligned on the Trilliums?

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Old 04-06-2011, 05:40 PM   #16
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Now that spring is coming, I am getting ready to do many projects on the trailer, including solving the door closing issue. So, Randy, how did you get the door aligned on the Trilliums?

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The point I was trying to make was that the Trillium door CANNOT be aligned so that it lines up with the belly band molding on the left (latch) side. It's a manufacturing flaw, and neither Randy nor anyone else can fix it.
APPARENTLY NOT EVEN TRILLIUM , since they're still putting them out that way.
The white trailer below is a (strategically photographed) picture of a brand spankin' new Trillium. The rest are Randy's perfect restorations. All reflect the original design flaw.
And if you go to the Outback (same molds) site you'll see the same thing:Trillium Trailers - The Outback - Photo Gallery
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:22 PM   #17
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The point I was trying to make was that the Trillium door CANNOT be aligned so that it lines up with the belly band molding on the left (latch) side. It's a manufacturing flaw, and neither Randy nor anyone else can fix it.
APPARENTLY NOT EVEN TRILLIUM , since they're still putting them out that way.
The white trailer below is a (strategically photographed) picture of a brand spankin' new Trillium. The rest are Randy's perfect restorations. All reflect the original design flaw.
And if you go to the Outback (same molds) site you'll see the same thing:Trillium Trailers - The Outback - Photo Gallery
Interesting. I have noticed looking at it this week that my front door has a very tight fit at the bottom on the hinge side but the fit becomes much wider as I look up the hinge side to the top, and correspondingly reversed on the opening side. I tried lifting the door and there does not seem to be much play in the hinges and the mounts do not seem to be loose. As the snow has almost melted here, I am planning to move the trailer from the back yard into my garage this Friday, at which time I can get started on the long list of updates I have planned. I will take a closer look at the door to see whether I can get it to fit better, though it seems not perfectly.
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:28 AM   #18
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Interesting. I have noticed looking at it this week that my front door has a very tight fit at the bottom on the hinge side but the fit becomes much wider as I look up the hinge side to the top, and correspondingly reversed on the opening side. I tried lifting the door and there does not seem to be much play in the hinges and the mounts do not seem to be loose. As the snow has almost melted here, I am planning to move the trailer from the back yard into my garage this Friday, at which time I can get started on the long list of updates I have planned. I will take a closer look at the door to see whether I can get it to fit better, though it seems not perfectly.
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Hi, Rick

It sounds to me like your door fits just like mine did ( and possibly like all Trillium doors do) before I started fooling around with it, which I did only because it looked like it was sagging. It operated just fine until I tried "fixing" it.
You might try this when you get a chance: lay a long straightedge at the top of the molded shoulder of the belly band seam and across the door . Make sure it extends a foot or so beyond the door on both sides. You'll see very clearly that these planes don't match.
And they never will this side of Glory.
My advice to you is, if the door latches alright, leave it alone.

Good luck!

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Old 04-13-2011, 07:55 AM   #19
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Francesca, thanks for this revelation. A couple weeks ago I replaced the hinges on my 4500. The holes were almost all compromised so I had rebuild the mounting surfaces, this gave me the opportunity to reinstall the door perfectly aligned. To my dismay I discovered exactly what you are talking about: IMPOSSIBLE! I thought it was just a sagging issue with my particular 4500, glad to hear that I'm not crazy.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:50 AM   #20
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I thought it was just a sagging issue with my particular 4500, glad to hear that I'm not crazy.
Hi, Scott

Well, you are not alone!
I'll bet this has been driving people nuts for years.
I discovered the mismatched planes during my third alignment attempt. I, too, thought that this flaw was some bizarre old-age (trailer, NOT me!) problem or a defect strictly of my particular trailer. Then the "new" Trillium pictures came out.
Wouldn't you think they'd have fixed the molds by now?


Sign me:
Dazed and confused maybe, but NOT crazy...

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Old 04-13-2011, 10:32 AM   #21
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I'm glad to learn that my Trillium door alignment issue is not unique. As I described earlier my re-installation did cure my latching issue and I do have a consistent or even reveal door to body on all sides of the door. This is probably more important than the detail of the side moulding lining up. As Francesca says if it closes and latches okay you are probably better off leaving it alone. If, however, it is wearing off edges of the door and it doesn't close right you will probably have to reposition the hinges, maybe just the bottom one, to push the bottom edge of the door further to the strike side. I feel your pain. Good luck.
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NEWSFLASH !!!

The Trillium has got to be the most copied piece of merchandise since the U.S.Twenty dollar bill...
Here's another trailer imitated from the original Trillium molds.
I think it's being made in British Columbia. The model in the picture is a bit longer than the Originals but...well, judge for yourself who this baby's Mama is!
The smaller model these Flattering Folks have on offer is an almost exact duplicate of the Original Trillium 1300 (I couldn't get the picture to upload) EXCEPT...
These trailermakers, at least, have attempted to solve the two-planes-on-each-side-of-the-door-don't-match problem.
Visually, anyway.
It looks like they just recast the door-I don't think the two planes now align, but they sure made it LOOK as if they might!
Certainly cheaper than fixing the body mold problem...
And yet... do my eyes deceive me, or is the left edge STILL a teensy weensy bit off?

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Old 04-23-2011, 07:28 AM   #23
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I removed the entire door latch on our trillium and gave it a good cleaning and greasing (the lock mechanism wasn't working smoothly on the inside). Overall it helped alot to smooth out latching the door. Like others I hold up the handle when I close the door. A few times the wind has caught the door and slammed it shut and latched, but it is murder on the striker plate, I have already had to re-rivet mine because it started to wiggle.
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NEWSFLASH !!!

The Trillium has got to be the most copied piece of merchandise since the U.S.Twenty dollar bill...
Here's another trailer imitated from the original Trillium molds.
I think it's being made in British Columbia. The model in the picture is a bit longer than the Originals but...well, judge for yourself who this baby's Mama is!
The smaller model these Flattering Folks have on offer is an almost exact duplicate of the Original Trillium 1300 (I couldn't get the picture to upload) EXCEPT...
These trailermakers, at least, have attempted to solve the two-planes-on-each-side-of-the-door-don't-match problem.
Visually, anyway.
It looks like they just recast the door-I don't think the two planes now align, but they sure made it LOOK as if they might!
Certainly cheaper than fixing the body mold problem...
And yet... do my eyes deceive me, or is the left edge STILL a teensy weensy bit off?

Francesca
Any chance those NEW models will have entire doors that fit the old models? For the price of finding a Bargman L-400 and the work of repairing the damage behind the springs it may be worth buying a new door. Hardware and all.... Randy
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Any chance those NEW models will have entire doors that fit the old models? For the price of finding a Bargman L-400 and the work of repairing the damage behind the springs it may be worth buying a new door. Hardware and all.... Randy
Hi, Randy!
I don't see why a door off a "new" Trillium or Bigfoot wouldn't fit.
They've certainly been faithful to the original molds!
Trouble is, the new Trilliums are the same dreary "polar white" color as everything else on the road these days
I don't think you could match the Classic Original color of the real Trilliums.
I actually completely rebuilt my door, and I'm pretty happy with it- especially once I figured out that the un-matching belly line is an as-designed "feature" for which there is no "cure".

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Maybe the door needs to have a liitle character to it? Maybe a bright red? You know like people paint their house doors. At least here in Mass...lol.... Maybe a mural painted on it if it didn't match enough to leave white... Randy
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That would actually be really cool...
It'd be interesting to contact Trillium or Bigfoot- or even Escape-and find out if they'll sell a complete door...

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NEWSFLASH !!!

The Trillium has got to be the most copied piece of merchandise since the U.S.Twenty dollar bill...
Here's another trailer imitated from the original Trillium molds.
I think it's being made in British Columbia. The model in the picture is a bit longer than the Originals but...well, judge for yourself who this baby's Mama is!
The smaller model these Flattering Folks have on offer is an almost exact duplicate of the Original Trillium 1300 (I couldn't get the picture to upload) EXCEPT...
These trailermakers, at least, have attempted to solve the two-planes-on-each-side-of-the-door-don't-match problem.
Visually, anyway.
It looks like they just recast the door-I don't think the two planes now align, but they sure made it LOOK as if they might!
Certainly cheaper than fixing the body mold problem...
And yet... do my eyes deceive me, or is the left edge STILL a teensy weensy bit off?

Francesca
Actually Francesca they were not attempting to "Flatter" anyone with their smaller model. If you check out this thread from a couple of years ago you will see they originally had a deal with Trilliam.

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