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Old 08-09-2013, 05:48 AM   #43
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Pretty much exactly what I have said too.

Everyone that I know that does what you do uses multiple smaller monitors for exactly the reasons you already do.
As I also have already said,waiting until you are sitting in your trailer to make these decisions is simply prudent from my experience and again I install these sets every day.

It also sounds like you have not yet tried this idea of yours on a bigger display?
I have 2 24" Dell IPS monitors sitting on my desk and right next to them is a 24" Samsung 1080P TV set that I can easily compare directly to the monitors.
As you point out they can each "Zoom" to be readable at some level but as I said and you added the pixel structure is clearly not similar at all. The TV output at these views is almost unreadable though in theory it sounds like a good idea.

Why not just buy a 32" computer Monitor and call it a day?
Well if you can,do!
The cutoff seems to be 27" and for practical reasons. Though the sets these days are for all intents multi scan monitors anyway a lot more goes into them than just the spec.

I like the 27" Samsung and they are at Sams Club for under $250.00 all the time. The problem though is that most 24" monitors look a lot better to most people in real world use.

The 27" Apple is amazing but 3 times the price,worth it but I would not put one in a trailer.

Then the cost and weight just goes through the roof as you look to anything bigger.
So a TV seems a natural alternative and for browsing and graphics they are fine. For text and DB work they fall flat and can be unusable.

A friend who is a Web Developer recently picked up a 32" Samsung TV as I suggested it as a TV,he didn't mention it would sit on his desk for work.
He ended up getting rid of it a week later and I found him 2 23" Apples instead and he could not be happier.

These sets are just not what they seem always.

I have a feeling you will realize as I already know that using a single big monitor will just not work as well as a few smaller ones in a tiny space like this.

On the other hand you seem clearly determined to do this the way you state now so good luck with your search.

As has been stated already,the sets do not have a lot in them anymore and are both cheaply made lightweight devices and have little inside for inertia to play with as long as securely mounted to the trailer.

I know that the better name brands may be made to a higher standard but they may also may not be and I would guess that they are more alike than different in construction these days?
Also light might be better but I really don't think it will be a big deal with a solid mounting platform.

Backlight methods seem to have no part in toughness or reliability either and I would not qualify a purchase based on this either way.

If you do need that much TV and mount it in place I would look to mount it top and bottom in there and not just suspended from a Vesa mount bolt pattern. I would give it better support than that. I would also look inside and see exactly how it is constructed before attempting to decide how to mount it taking into account where the weight and mounting points are and if they seem reinforced or not.
A lot of these units have the mount location in odd spots that makes me wonder how they ever decided where and how to locate them?
I installed 3 32" units Yesterday where the Vesa mount location caused the TV to See-Saw on the wall if you looked at them wrong? I need them to articulate from the wall and had to use much heavier duty mounts than usual for the weight as the mount location just was not good for a stable install without an overkill mount. This of course can create its own problems too.

Friends of mine modify TVs for use in Prisons and they open and modify every single one for strength and to try to prevent them from being "Removed" from the mounts. There is not a lot of anything solid to work with there.

Also I mainly use a 17" High Res Macbook Pro about 1' from my face for all the reasons I mentioned earlier which you then seemed to echo.
Just the post practical solution I have found in the confines of the Egg.
It is a simple matter to hang a swing away platform or tray for the machine and then get it directly in front of me when needed and push it away when not.

Hope this had risen to a level that you find helpful in some way at last.
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Clip: "Expanding the thread to discuss how the electronics of a TV will interface to a computer is most relevant (to me)."
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And exactly what part of the FGRV would this pertain to?

There are lots of sites dealing with computer questions where the Sheldons & Wallowitzes of the world love to show off their expertise (as well as control the discussions)

BTW: Our Haire 24" flat screen not only works on 12 VDC, it is a 1080 resolution. Can't say that Sam's Club would be my first choice when looking for a quality flat screen, or at least I wouldn't give up looking for one just because SC doesn't have same.
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Might be a good time to remind all that the measure of relevance on FGRV is what you bring to a discussion that other members find useful, amusing, or just "Oh so true." The passionate commitment of experts and specialists is welcome as is the innocent enthusiasm of generalists. Mutual tolerance is the ingredient in the mix that assures that owners are helped and problems are solved. 'Nuf said.

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Point taken Jack.

Just trying to help but.....
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Not pointing fingers. You went the extra mile, Ed. Appreciate your effort to keep this hard-mouthed hobby horse in the middle of the street.

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Can't say that Sam's Club would be my first choice when looking for a quality flat screen, or at least I wouldn't give up looking for one just because SC doesn't have same.
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Sams is the best place to find one almost all the time!
If they have what you are looking for the price is always better and the performance plan they sell is also better than everyone else's.

I always look to Sams first and that is for over 100 TVs a year.

Tip#2-Sears!

I try to buy only Panasonic and Samsung as they are just the best built and have fewer problems for me than the others and both Sams and Sears have great pricing on both brands.

Oddly though the stores do not all carry the same models so it pays to go and look in person often.

So since Sams does carry a High Res.Samsung 27" computer Monitor and it is a screaming deal price I point to that!

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Might be a good time to remind all that the measure of relevance on FGRV is what you bring to a discussion that other members find useful, amusing, or just "Oh so true." The passionate commitment of experts and specialists is welcome as is the innocent enthusiasm of generalists. Mutual tolerance is the ingredient in the mix that assures that owners are helped and problems are solved. 'Nuf said.

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That may be where you're taking the site these days but, just from my own personal perspective, I'd like to see posts directed to molded fiberglass trailers at least tangentally. No cause to be rude (not you) but a little focus couldn't hurt, General Chat topics aside.
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[QUOTE=Ed Harris;409400]Bob

Sams is the best place to find one almost all the time!
If they have what you are looking for the price is always better and the performance plan they sell is also better than everyone else's.

I always look to Sams first and that is for over 100 TVs a year.
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Just to mention, at Sam's, as at Wal-Mart, it's all about exact model numbers. I have often found differences in seemingly identical TV's and other products at both Sam's and W-M. They buy enough to force manufacturers to shave every penny off that they can, and that sometimes means a lesser quality product with a slightly different model number.

Soooo, when you read a review about that new product you want, be sure to follow the model numbers, not the Brand and Model names.

When I had to return a flatscreen TV to Sam's, that was DOA out of the box, a couple of years back,, it took an act of the stores general manager to approve the return as well as a 30 minute interrogation and inspection of the product. At COSTCO returns are a 3 minute transaction and the customers are always right.
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Oh so true, Steve. Thank you.

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Oh so true, Steve. Thank you.

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I get it. And I mean this in the nicest possible way and tongue-in-cheek (figuratively):

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Ed, I'm not committed to a TV, in fact I absolutely understand and appreciate the hesitation in using one as a computer monitor.

I do strongly desire a 32" (or thereabouts) size for the reasons stated. I haven't looked for computer monitors in the 32" size. I just assumed that they either wouldn't exist or they would be astronomically expensive.
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Ed, I'm not committed to a TV, in fact I absolutely understand and appreciate the hesitation in using one as a computer monitor.

I do strongly desire a 32" (or thereabouts) size for the reasons stated. I haven't looked for computer monitors in the 32" size. I just assumed that they either wouldn't exist or they would be astronomically expensive.
you are correct,
they are almost non existant in that size.
that said if you stick with samsung, panasonic, nec, sharp you can get a good quality tv with computer inputs, our most trouble free at work are the samsungs...
pretty much every other brand will be similar tv rebranded or with different model number depending on where its sold at.
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