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Old 10-17-2016, 12:21 PM   #15
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Gordon, you too are a valued member. don't be afraid to speak up!
put yourself in her shoes for a sec - living in the trailer (not a temporary vacation), vast amounts of tell-tale blue everywhere, no one local to help, visions of many dollar signs flying away. I'd be panicking too! a very high emotionally charged situation. I don't envy them, can only empathize.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:30 PM   #16
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Well, I have done research on google regarding our current situation with our RV. In my research I was led to this particular website as an RV forum. As several of you have made it abundantly clear that I do not belong here due to the type of RV we own, I will gladly remove myself from this site. No sense staying where I'm not wanted. Thanks to everyone for letting me know I don't belong here. Good bye and perhaps I will find a more friendly RV forum.

Oh no, it isn't that you aren't wanted or welcome here at all!

Please know that members were trying to steer you for more specific and useful help for what you need.

However, it appears you took your self away in a huff, shame really.

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p.s. we see and find what we expect in others, as a reflection from where we are coming from, hope things turn brighter for you and or at least you can see this
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"You have misunderstood the messages"

I don't think there was a missunderstanging at all. I thing the replys to that person was downright rude.
edit: I'm blown away by this, please refer to my p.s. above and hopefully everyone who sees and feels such rudeness will recover from whatever has them jaded or feeling so badly.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:32 PM   #17
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re: under belly leak.

Locating a leak can be tricky at the best of time, however I would think you have narrowed it down due to the blue coloring of the water revealing to check the Black water tank. It may leak more when the tank gets heavier as the tank fills or get to a certain level. Use a mirror and flash light or possibly a digital camera pushed up their. If it is wet keep looking up till you feel dry. Push up on the tank does it flex or is it mounted securely, you may find a crack around the tank connection to the 3'' drainline/ dump valve (some Keystone owner reported this on other models). The tank may need to be secured as it moves with the starting and stopping of the fluid and stresses the tank area. Maybe adding some plumbers galvanized strapping might secure it. Your tank maybe ABS with YouTube showing multi repair method, I have also sucessfully used Marine goop on a few non pressure piping project if this fails you may have to even lower your tank to repair it or it replace it. Tough to really diagnose until you actually locate the problem, be sure to drain and flush the tank to remove the chemical additive.
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:45 PM   #18
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I think we've all done some web surfing and ended up in left field. A wrong word or two in the query can be interesting. There have been a number of folks that have ended up on this site that have been helped out with their SOB TT's. Most have thanked those that took the time to do so. I'd like her to come back to let us know what the problem was. One thing that I've noticed from SOBs comments after they're informed this is a molded site, is they only see the big word "fiberglass" in the title .
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:28 PM   #19
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Oh heavens - and this poor person asked for advice...

Just a question - does the place you bought your RV have a website or a phone number? They might be of some help. Your trailer manufacturer no doubt has a website as well and you may even be able to download a manual on your system.

Is there ANY RV repair place close to where you are? They may well have the necessary skills to perform at least a temporary fix to stop the leak and get you home. For that matter, my plumber friend tells me that plumbing is pretty much plumbing, so long as he can find the parts. So if all else fails, find a plumber.

For now I wouldn't get too excited about the "damage". Smart to remove the insulation and try to ventilate the space. Maybe, since it's been wet already, try and rinse the chemical out as best you can.

And finally, welcome! There's an old saying that a village is judged by how well it welcomes strangers. Good luck and I hope this may have helped.
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:19 PM   #20
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Hi Brenda,
I've been trailering for 40 plus years. The type of trailer doesn't matter. If a trailer person has a problem and someone can help, they should. If any trailer has plumbing, the plumbing can leak. Water always runs down hill and will collect at the lowest level. This is a common problem. I've seen it numerous times. It isn't hard to fix. The membrane on the bottom of your unit is intended to keep water and other things out. It will also keep leaked water in. Your "blue" water is likely grey or more likely black water. Not only do you have a leak problem, you may also have a biohazard problem. This could be a health hazard. That why you should address it sooner rather than later. You have removed the membrane and the insulation. Hopefully, this hasn't made anyone sick. Your plumbing system can be isolated into sections and pressure tested to determine where the leak is. Once the leak is fixed areas exposed to the grey or black water may need to be treated with a germicidal cleaner. The insulation and finally the membrane will need to be replaced. If this isn't something you are comfortably doing yourself you may want to contact a reputable dealership who will have the necessary expertise. Good Luck!
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:22 PM   #21
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There have been a number of folks that have ended up on this site that have been helped out with their SOB TT's. Most have thanked those that took the time to do so. .
Yup after all a number of folks here have owned SOB at one time or another and some still do

If my current SOB was spewing out blue water from the under belly I would be in full out panic mode.

I do though fully understand the initial responses and the reasons behind them - yes there are many better places than here for someone to obtain advise on the type of trailer the OP has.

Given the seriousness of the situation Jack L. has given the best advise in post #8. Not only has he given a pretty good suggestion as to what the cause of the problem may be, the suggestion they contact their insurance company is spot on. Whether or not they have the insurance coverage for this type of problem is a whole other matter though

From the damage described the fix its not going to be a cheap &/or fast. A call to the trailer manufacturer and the insurance company ASP is in order if the OP has not already done so. Either one or both will probable assist in helping to get the situation under control and the trailer where it needs to be in order for it to be fixed to prevent further damage.
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:41 PM   #22
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Wow, this thread has evolved fast - not even twelve hours. The OP was desperate and this must have been the first RV forum she stumbled upon. She also expected instant, magical answers and explanations, which do not come in minutes. She came at 9:06 and left in a huff at 9:59. That's pretty quick.

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The first answers were quite reasonable, clearly saying the small FGRV's are of a different design, therefore our experience may not be applicable. I did not read anything disrespectful or rude, just the opposite. None of you who replied should be beating yourselves up, you were there instantly offering help, and nobody should be suggesting otherwise.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:30 PM   #23
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I've been trailering for 40 plus years. The type of trailer doesn't matter. ...
Or does it? I had NO idea what the OP was talking about because her trailer is apparently so different from anything I have owned.. Mine have always been simple and basic. The reference to an "underbelly" meant nothing to me and I still don't know what it is. So it seems reasonable to suggest that a site solely dedicated to molded fiberglass trailers (which have no underbelly I assume, without knowing what that means) is not the best place to seek help. Kudos to those who were able to understand the problem and offer advice but...


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My take:
The first answers were quite reasonable, clearly saying the small FGRV's are of a different design, therefore our experience may not be applicable. I did not read anything disrespectful or rude, just the opposite. None of you who replied should be beating yourselves up, you were there instantly offering help, and nobody should be suggesting otherwise.
Well said. I hope that Brenda sees all of this and understands that everyone was really just trying to offer what they reasonably believed to be good advice.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:42 PM   #24
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My take:
The first answers were quite reasonable, clearly saying the small FGRV's are of a different design, therefore our experience may not be applicable. I did not read anything disrespectful or rude, just the opposite. None of you who replied should be beating yourselves up, you were there instantly offering help, and nobody should be suggesting otherwise.
We need a LIKE button!

I didn't read anything rude into the responses either.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:00 PM   #25
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Or does it? I had NO idea what the OP was talking about because her trailer is apparently so different from anything I have owned.. Mine have always been simple and basic. The reference to an "underbelly" meant nothing to me and I still don't know what it is. So it seems reasonable to suggest that a site solely dedicated to molded fiberglass trailers (which have no underbelly I assume, without knowing what that means) is not the best place to seek help. Kudos to those who were able to understand the problem and offer advice but...




Well said. I hope that Brenda sees all of this and understands that everyone was really just trying to offer what they reasonably believed to be good advice.
The underside of many stick built trailers have a waterproof membrane to keep water out of the insulation and off the underside of the floor . The membrane as in this case can trap water / liquid between the trailer floor and the membrane when you have a plumbing leak.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:07 PM   #26
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The reference to an "underbelly" meant nothing to me and I still don't know what it is.
Gordon many trailers also have sheeting covering the underside of the trailer - could be plastic, metal or fiberglass that complete covers the underside of the trailer so none of the tanks, plumping, axle etc are exposed/visible.

Some fibreglass trailers also have an underbelly - one I can think of is the Bigger - the underside of it is cover in fiberglass. There probable are other examples in the world of fibreglass.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:18 PM   #27
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Gordon many trailers also have sheeting covering the underside of the trailer - could be plastic, metal or fiberglass that complete covers the underside of the trailer so none of the tanks, plumping, axle etc are exposed/visible. ...
Live and learn! So should I have an underbelly on my Scamp? Would it be a good user mod to do? Kinda sounds like a bad idea if it traps human waste or hides other defects, but what do I know...

Now that I think about it.. my Toyota van has an underbelly covering the area under the trunk. I had to trim it when I installed the hitch. Reportedly it exists to improve gas mileage. Perhaps it serves that purpose on a trailer also.

Oh well.. I think I have gone as far off topic as I dare.

(BTW, when I was seeking advice on the hitch installation, I posted on the Toyota Users forum.. it seemed the logical thing to do )
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Now that I think about it.. my Toyota van has an underbelly covering the area under the trunk. I had to trim it when I installed the hitch. Reportedly it exists to improve gas mileage.
I was under the impression on vehicles its actually a heat guard. Keeps your exhaust system from starting a fire should you park on long grass. Or at least that is what the Subaru dealer told me when I asked to have one removed that was damaged due to a rock climbing incident on a back road
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