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Old 06-27-2016, 06:30 PM   #1
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Ventura -first step into the trailer

There is a lot of give to the floor on the first step into the trailer. I can see that the bottom door frame is not attached to the sides and the PO replaced the first foot or so of plywood so that area is not connected to the rest of the subfloor.
Are these factors enough to be causing the bouncy step or is something else going on?
Has anyone else had this occur in their Ventura?
Besides correcting the floor and door frame, I am considering having the frame extended at that point (if possible), to within a few inches of the door, to give a firm base.
I know this will really bother me if it is not fixed.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:21 AM   #2
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There should be an angle iron support under the floor in the entrance area. The weld on mine was broken. Also, never step on the door frame, it will break the corner weld on the frame(on any trailer). What I did was install a piece of plywood under the door frame to force it upward. As far as the floor, I think it was only cheap 1/2 plywood which is pretty bouncy and rots out if it gets wet. Check the seal on the door and also the window in the door leaks like crazy and will rot the door out.

My bet is on the angle iron being broken
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BTW the floor in these animals was laid into the wet fiberglass as it was molded so its stuck down like glue. Mine was soft in that area and I used some stuff called Gritrot to firm it up and seal it. Others have removed the entire floor with a lot of 4 letter words flying around and damage to the fiberglass floor pan.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:36 AM   #4
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Doorstep

thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to know. The PO said there was no door when he bought it, Just the homemade screen door. He made a door but it is too deep and does not really fit. I know I have to take the whole thing off and build a new door.
I will go and look again but I checked quickly before and saw no metal support under that area. I am going to embark on fiberglassing the belly band so could put plywood under the step at the same time if you think that will solve the problem. I assume that trying to have a piece welded on aat this point would be challenging.
Again, thanks.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:50 AM   #5
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Floor

I have removed the floor on the raised back and front sections with no damage ,so far.
I am finishing today on the main area but there I am doing about 10 inches around the perimeter where the floor is rotten and disintegrating in parts. I will be leaving and treating the centre, once I get the lino off.
It has been a real job cleaning the floor of the trailer- in the gullies behind the wheel wells there was about 6 inches of compost- rotted organic material and in a cupboard a mass of sticky substance with maggots.
Was about to find a torch at that point but kept calm and carried on.
it is looking and smelling much better now and I will soon turn the corner to rebuilding.
Thanks for your replies.
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I have removed the floor on the raised back and front sections with no damage ,so far.
I am finishing today on the main area but there I am doing about 10 inches around the perimeter where the floor is rotten and disintegrating in parts. I will be leaving and treating the centre, once I get the lino off.
It has been a real job cleaning the floor of the trailer- in the gullies behind the wheel wells there was about 6 inches of compost- rotted organic material and in a cupboard a mass of sticky substance with maggots.
Was about to find a torch at that point but kept calm and carried on.
it is looking and smelling much better now and I will soon turn the corner to rebuilding.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi Pat ! I know it is a pain , wish there was some pictures . I am following your progress as I said I would . Pat
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Old 06-28-2016, 02:03 PM   #7
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Pics to come

Once I finish for the day I will take more pics and upload them. I was taking some everyday to chronicle the progress but once I really got into it, I was too consumed with the work itself. I marvel at the people who video the whole process. I would just forget about the camera.
Thanks for your support. It is hard but still fun and I look forward to starting every day.
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Once I finish for the day I will take more pics and upload them. I was taking some everyday to chronicle the progress but once I really got into it, I was too consumed with the work itself. I marvel at the people who video the whole process. I would just forget about the camera.
Thanks for your support. It is hard but still fun and I look forward to starting every day.
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More about the floor

Once the wood by the front door was taken up, I could see that there is a crack just behind (looking from outside) the door frame on the right. (see pic) The door frame on the left side is not attached.
I did find the iron crossbar underneath. It was further back than I expected. Someone had put 3 small pieces of plywood (now punky) under the floor near the door but they really don't do anything.
The floor has a very noticeable slope down to the door from there. and then another slope into the trailer, so the bar creates a high point.
I am going to put in a continuous piece of plywood, repair the frame and try to fix the crack. As well, I am going to try Dudley's suggestion of using a piece of plywood underneath on the outside to force the floor up.
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Once the wood by the front door was taken up, I could see that there is a crack just behind (looking from outside) the door frame on the right. (see pic) The door frame on the left side is not attached.
I did find the iron crossbar underneath. It was further back than I expected. Someone had put 3 small pieces of plywood (now punky) under the floor near the door but they really don't do anything.
The floor has a very noticeable slope down to the door from there. and then another slope into the trailer, so the bar creates a high point.
I am going to put in a continuous piece of plywood, repair the frame and try to fix the crack. As well, I am going to try Dudley's suggestion of using a piece of plywood underneath on the outside to force the floor up.
Any other suggestions?
Pat not sure what I am looking at . Another pic further away to get some prospective . Have you worked with fiberglass ? Pat
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That is just a crack and hole in the fiberglass by the door, it weakens the threshhold significantly.
I have not used fiberglass but am about to become immersed in it. I have to fiberglass the top and bottom together and there are lots of holes and cracks to be patched. I have read many threads and watched videos and feel sightly prepared.
I have started a "progress" thread on the alterations etc forum with pics. I will update it when I have anything new.
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That is just a crack and hole in the fiberglass by the door, it weakens the threshhold significantly.
I have not used fiberglass but am about to become immersed in it. I have to fiberglass the top and bottom together and there are lots of holes and cracks to be patched. I have read many threads and watched videos and feel sightly prepared.
I have started a "progress" thread on the alterations etc forum with pics. I will update it when I have anything new.
You will do just fine with the fiberglass job. Just remember if it is not as smooth as you like it can be sanded I am busy working on my doorway with fiberglass this week. The floor was rotted, the opening for the door frame had been made too large. The shell was never strong enough...so it goes. Bigger job than I would have liked but it just one step at time.
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[QUOTE=Patricia D.;595534]That is just a crack and hole in the fiberglass by the door, it weakens the threshhold significantly.
I have not used fiberglass but am about to become immersed in it. I have to fiberglass the top and bottom together and there are lots of holes and cracks to be patched. I have read many threads and watched videos and feel sightly prepared.
I have started a "progress" thread on the alterations etc forum with pics. I will update it when I have anything new
Hi Pat just like Dudley says . I Just finished repairing a crack on my door . Actually it is kind of fun . I wish I had a picture of the whole situation . From what it showed you will need some reinforcement , fiberglass cloth you embed first . Protect your lungs , eye's and skin . I know you already know that .I was scared because my trailer is still new ,but once I got into it , it was not hard at all . I was told to watch temp too . Early morning best time to work with if your temps are over 80. It will set up too fast . Any help I can just holler . Pat
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Fiberglassing isn't too bad, just remember, gloves, dust mask, safety glasses and acetone for removing it from stuff like arms. Hardest part is trying to get the darn gloves off when covered in resin. Read the mixing instuctions well as to how much hardener to use( you may need to use a little less if its hot as it may set up too fast. Pretty forgiving stuff and if you screw up, just grind it out and do again.
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