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Old 03-17-2013, 01:36 PM   #15
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An attempt to stop or interrupt the progress of an assault is not necessarily tantamount to an attempt to kill the assailant, but employing a potentially lethal toxin provides additional probability of successful prosecution in criminal proceedings and judgment for compensation to the assailant in civil suits for damages.

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Say what????

Suggestion: Substitute the word "gun" for "potentially lethal toxin". Does the assertion still stand?

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Old 03-17-2013, 02:01 PM   #16
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The possession and use of deadly force is a PITA if it can be determined that the nominal victim is actually the aggressor and that other remedies were not exhausted prior to its use. Your choice to get a CC permit and stick a pink LadySmith n your purse. The same caveats apply. Let's make an honest effort to stick to the subject and concerns of the OP, who happens be me. Thanks.

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Wouldn't like 99.9% of the people not stop to think about what might happen to them if they are trying to stop someone from criminally attacking them? You know, this is another thing that I am just not going to worry about but the criminals would like it if you are just too afraid to defend yourself because they are counting on that. I could worry about my dogs biting someone and the liability insurance not covering what I would be sued for. I could worry that I might bump into someone on the street and injure them so I could just sit in the house and make that my prison or sit at home quietly alone hoping that death comes quickly. Gotta' live!

It is good that the OP has brought this to everyone's attention but in the end, we all have to make our own choices.

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The possession and use of deadly force is a PITA if it can be determined that the nominal victim is actually the aggressor and that other remedies were not exhausted prior to its use. Your choice to get a CC permit and stick a pink LadySmith n your purse. The same caveats apply. Let's make an honest effort to stick to the subject and concerns of the OP, who happens be me. Thanks.

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I'm trying!

Did I get the message wrong in the post I quoted? It seems to warn against the use of wasp spray since it could be considered to be "deadly"...I just don't see why its use for self defense should be discouraged for that reason.

Certainly it's less "deadly" than a gun (which I don't carry)- or my sheath knife, for that matter.


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Jack thanks for the heads up re the bug spray. Would hate to see the back window of my trailer were the little stick men of my confirmed kills are get to cluttered up with unintentional kills. best to stick to the pepper spray.
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When I was traveling around the country in my van I kept a can of oven cleaner spray handy. If you read the label warnings, you know why.
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IIRC, I did not see a statement that insecticides cause immediate death or that their use is considered deadly force. I did see a statement to the effect that death could result from exposure in the medium term. Also,blindness. All the more reason to get upwind of your assailant. Probably a good idea with other caustic preparations ready at hand.

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I think the wasp spray is excellent idea and some of them shoot 15 to 20 away. I cant honestly think of any jury that would put a woman in jail for protecting herself. As Tom said a little lead poison, 45 caliber kind, wouldnt hurt either. But if you dont want to put a person down at least discourage them with a bad taste in their mouth and burning eyes. I am going to recommend that to my SO to have around.
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I don't travel with dogs but have heard that their gas can be a deadly weapon.
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I don't travel with dogs but have heard that their gas can be a deadly weapon.
By far the most dangerous part of our greyhound. Love that Fantastic fan.
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Francesca, dead is dead, not down or out of commission or in agony or unconscious but dead. Fists can be deadly weapons. I'm not going to rank "deadly weapons" for you in order of effectiveness. You're free to do so if you wish.

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Why not use Coca Cola? Seems to work for everything else.
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You're welcome, Carol. Strictly FYI. I got nothing to sell. A heads up while there is time to think and consider.

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Why not use Coca Cola? Seems to work for everything else.
Hummm not sure about straight up coca cola but it in combo with a good rum it certainly has been know to demobilize people. But due to the amount of time it normally takes for that approach to demobilizing to be effective, you may need to be concerned with it being deemed a premeditated assault
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