water heater pilot - Fiberglass RV


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-08-2002, 08:46 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
water heater pilot

One irritating thing happened on our initial trip with the new Casita. The water heater pilot kept going out. We were at alitude ( NM, CO, UT, AZ) and I was led to believe that at high elevation this can be a problem. Anyone experience this?
__________________

__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2002, 09:13 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
It happens Jim

The water heater pilot on any RV water heater is prone to blowing out, depending on all kinds of things ... wind, altitude, adjustment, etc., but even the pilot can also be overwhelmed by the reverse "whoosh" created when the burner cuts off from full burn back to pilot.

It's not a problem. It's just one of those things you learn to live with.

Over the years, we've developed what I call a demand hot water system. When Pam demands hot water, I go out and turn on the water heater. It heats up easily in one cycle. What I usually do after a cycle or two, is turn the knob back to pilot instead of the on position. Once the water is heated, we've found, running just the pilot keeps it warm enough for hours afterwards.

We rarely, if ever, leave the water heater going and blowing all day ... and never on at all during the night.

Something else that can affect the strength of your propane system ... especially with new propane tanks ... is whether or not your new propane tanks were properly purged when they were first filled.

You specifically have to ask Bubba at the propane place to PURGE your tanks prior to the first filling. Usually you have to pay $10 or so in addition to the regular price for filling the tank.

Not trying to worry you, but did you make sure your new propane tanks were properly purged prior to filling?
__________________

__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2002, 08:19 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
water heater flameout

Charles, thanks for the input. I'm confident that my tanks were properly purged because we took the trailer to the Bubba propane outfit recommended by Casita. The fella that purged and filled the tanks had been doing it for years and even talked me through the process. It took him a while to do it right.
If I experience a flameout, does the gas continue spewing out? Does the gas shut off if the pilot goes out? When I found that the pilot had gone out I would wait a minute or two until I lit it again. I always turned the knob to 'off' before relighting. I want to be sure I'm operating everything safely.
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2002, 05:22 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
pilot

>>" Does the gas shut off if the pilot goes out?

Jim:

If the pilot goes out it's OK.

The heat from the pilot light causes a thermocouple to open a valve allowing gas thru the line to the burner (and the pilot). When you depress the knob, as you are lighting the pilot, it bypasses the thermocouple controlled valve. Notice, you can't relight it without depressing the valve?!
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2002, 05:34 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
Need the water heater

We had problems with our water heater when camping in winds or high altitudes. Needing my hot shower and Charlie hating to go out and keep relighting, we finally went to Camping World and had an electric hot rod installed. Charlie put a switch inside the camper. We mostly camp with hookups so all I have to do is hit the switch. Funny now the gas water heater works most of the time, except in high winds. We even made a shield but this doesn't help much. Then of course it is the husbands task to keep relighting so the women can have their hot water.

The hot rod does void the warrenty on the gas heater but so far we never had a problem .:hap2
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 08:49 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
hot rod

Barbara,
I'm unfamiliar with the 'Hot Rod' you had installed in your water heater. It sounds like you made it into a remote igniter. Could you enlighten me?
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 09:16 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
Hot rod

Jim, a hot rod is an electrical rod that replaces the anode rod/plug in the water heater. Plug it into electricity and it heats up the water.

Reason the hot rod voids the Suburban warranty is the Suburban water heat uses an anode rod to lengthen the life of the water tank.

But, as Barb says, folks use them all the time ... but do so with the knowledge that your voiding the warranty (if you have one).

Atwood water heaters (used in some makes of fiberglass trailers) do not use an anode rod, so you probably could use a hot rod in them without voiding the warranty (although I don't know that for a fact!)
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 09:40 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
Hot Rod/Anode Rod

Just wondering how often folks replace the anode rod. Is this every year, or does it depend on how much you're using? Also, does the hot rod also collect minerals and need to be replaced on same basis as the anode rod?
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 09:45 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
Anode rod

>>how often

Depends on what kind of water you've been using ... and how long you've held the water in the water heater. Usually can get a couple of years out of my anode rods ... but sometimes have replaced it annually.

Check it a couple of times a year, by removing plug/anode rod assembly. When any part of the anode is pencil thin, replace the rod.

No, the hot rod doesn't work like an anode rod, which is why Suburban voids your warranty if you use one.

Now, I just had a thought, however ... if you do shorten the life of your water heater tank by using a hot rod ... and the tank starts leaking ... if you remove the hot rod and replace the anode rod before taking your trailer in for service, particularly warranty service.... I won't tell!
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 10:08 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
anode rod

Be sure to release the water pressure in the water heater before removing the anode rod.:red :red :red
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 10:28 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
Anode rod

Nick, that second smilie with the red face was me.:red ":red" :red

Ain't campin fun!!!
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2002, 05:36 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
water heater lighter

:wave Ted Tuchen had a thing at lake casita that (as i recall) he said, is an electronic re-igniter. sold by suburban at bubba's. about $80.00
you have to go outside and push something, it lights the pilot and if it gets blown out, it re-ignites it.
meant to buy one this week, but forgot.,,there's lots to forget.
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2002, 05:53 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
Cross reference

Lou,

I posted the details (?) on the Casita Club forum some time ago. You will have to do a search. If that doesn't help let me know.

You basically got it right. There is an on-off switch on the module which provides an elctronic spark to the pilot anytime it is in the on postion and there is no pilot.
__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2002, 07:59 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 18,870
re-ignitor

If the pilot flame goes out, will the ignitor relite the flame before the thermocouple cools enough to shut off the propane?:chin

Anybody tried it??
__________________

__________________
Legacy Posts is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
hot water heater cyndi H Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 11 08-13-2013 01:50 PM
water heater Sandra Lair Modifications, Alterations and Updates 16 10-09-2009 11:58 AM
Water Heater Q Eric & Tam Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 3 06-19-2007 08:00 PM
water heater pilot Chris Z Care and Feeding of Molded Fiberglass Trailers 10 09-17-2006 08:26 PM
Hot Water Heater - Rusty Water terryw Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 9 07-15-2006 09:33 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.