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Old 12-10-2014, 04:36 AM   #1
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Hello everyone,

I'm in the market and I wanted to find the lightest weight models there are that have a wet bath in them? Toilet and shower. The lighter and smaller the better.

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Old 12-10-2014, 05:29 AM   #2
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Welcome to FGRV Dee. I'm not sure but the 13' Scamp is probably the lightest. Others will have some suggestions for you soon. What is your tow rig ?
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:42 AM   #3
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As Dave mentioned, it all starts with your tow vehicle and what it's rated as to total weight and hitch weight. The Scamp 13' was/is available with a wet bath but those are very rare as the first option was a separate toilet, and a second option added the shower and the hot water system.


Just as a WAG, of all the 13' Scamps out there, that I would say that less than 20% had the bath and even fewer had the shower option.


As the 13'er's get real small with a dedicated bathroom/shower (we had one and sold it for that reason) you might want to be looking at 15-16' rigs. But again, lets start with the tow rig first.... what will you be towing with?
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:29 AM   #4
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Lil Snoozy is light and has a wet bath..........
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:45 AM   #5
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A wet bath can be installed in any FGRV. All you need is an inflated kiddie pool on the floor. Heat your water on the stove, tip it into the pool, do your thing, tip it out the door.
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I believe the 13' Casita Patriot Deluxe(which has the wet bath) is about 1900 lbs dry weight and about 250 lbs on the tongue
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Old 12-10-2014, 10:24 AM   #7
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Hello everyone,

I'm in the market and I wanted to find the lightest weight models there are that have a wet bath in them? Toilet and shower. The lighter and smaller the better.

Thank you.
Weicraft makes the "Ponderosa" which is possibly a couple hundred pounds lighter than the Scamp front bath.
It is a LOT less convenient in design and the shower is a fold out, but it may take the title as the smallest with a shower. It also presents a smaller frontal area which is a factor as important as weight which is nearly always ignored on this forum.
Notice that the shower blocks the entrance/exit when in use.
The Scamp front bath is most likely to fill your criteria in a practical way, but it is nice to know whats out there.

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Old 12-10-2014, 10:26 AM   #8
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A good rule of thumb is to add 600lbs to any dry weights you may read.

The thread Trailer Weights in the Real World may be of some help. Although I don't see any weights of a 13' Scamp Deluxe that has the bath up front on the list.
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A wet bath can be installed in any FGRV. All you need is an inflated kiddie pool on the floor. Heat your water on the stove, tip it into the pool, do your thing, tip it out the door.
To finish your shower process "and then step into the mud when you leave the trailer..... LOL

BUT that said, almost all campgrounds discourage or prohibit dumping gray water on the ground.

Obviously one mans "Light" is another's "Overweight". I recently saw a "FeatherLite" sticky that must have topped the scales at 4500 lbs.

Let's find out what the o.p. will be towing with, if it's a certain Subaru none of the above recommendations will be "Light" enough.
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A good rule of thumb is to add 600lbs to any dry weights you may read.

The thread Trailer Weights in the Real World may be of some help. Although I don't see any weights of a 13' Scamp Deluxe that has the bath up front on the list.
Scamp makes both Deluxe and Standard with a front bath.
My Scamp 13D with every option except a second propane tank weighs...
about "1350 lbs" subtracting your "rule of thumb"
A new one nicely equipped comes in around 1750# delivered, without a 600 pound thumb on the scale.
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My 13' Scamp is the standard model with bath/shower. It weighs in @ 1740lbs from the factory. You could leave off the awning, A/C and maybe some other stuff (not sure what it would be unless you forego the fridge and all!). Then you could probably get it to around 1600lbs. But now that I think of it, the Dometic toilet with black tank weighs in at another 50lbs. This doesnt include the piping and drain valve. So you may could go a lighter-weight porta-potty. We also have the Screen door. If you wanted to go all electric and eliminate the stove/propane and maybe go electric on the Atwood waterheater, you could probably drop into the 1500 lb range. But it would be a pretty stripped-down Scamp.

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I'm in the market and I wanted to find the lightest weight models there are that have a wet bath in them? Toilet and shower. The lighter and smaller the better.

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Old 12-10-2014, 12:31 PM   #12
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Thank you everyone for the info and a warm welcome Borrego Dave. The lighter the better for me because I have a Toyota Yaris Hatchback Not at all ideal but that's what I got for now. The gas mileage I get for what I paid for the car is amazing!!


I've been searching Yaris forums of people that are towing a FGRV and so far it looks like there are a few modifications you can make to your Yaris to be able to tow without problems. I haven't had the time yet to call around but it's on my list. If you know of any FGRV towing folks out there I'd appreciate any advise.


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Hmmmmm.... (That's what I almost always start with when there is bad news LOL)
In the US Market the Yaris appears to be rated DO NOT TOW and, apparently in Canada, it is rated for about 750 LBS. That pretty much leaves out everything except the smallest of tent trailers, and certainly every known FGRV bigger than, maybe, a fiberglass teardrop. The euro ratings are not considered a part of the discussion hereabouts.


Actually there is nothing you can do to erase the DO NOT TOW limitation. When the manufacturer puts that in the manual everything else is based on that being adhered to, from your warranty, to your insurance, to your personal liability if something happens and you are towing over limit.


Here is a towing discussion on a Yaris site: Yaris Towing 1000 lbs? - Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site


Don't shoot the messenger..... LOL
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Sorry;
If you read my posts you will see that I don't panic over "ratings", but I don't think the Yaris can be used to tow effectively.

You would be better off to buy a used 4Cyl Ranger or equivalent (to use just for towing) and consider it part of your trailer budget.

Keep the Yaris for what it was meant for... commuting and errands. The Yaris will loose 4MPG just carrying around a stout friend in the passenger's seat.
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