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Old 07-27-2007, 02:47 PM   #15
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Thanks, Maureen and Chris,

I'd called the Customs Office and they didn't mention anything about needing to see a DOT sticker for the US--just asked if it was made in Canada and that there be something on the trailer to that effect.

I called Bigfoot and left a voicemail message for Bruce, whom they said was the person who could assist. I will follow up again on Monday if needed.

Ask a different person, get a different answer!

What part of the Border did you come through? Did you have to pay a duty fee on it as well? And did the DOT sticker from Bigfoot have to specify the exact model and year of manufacture?

The US Customs website states that under NAFTA, duty is usually waived for vehicles over 1 years old.

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Old 07-27-2007, 10:57 PM   #16
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Val, we didn't have to pay a duty fee. We came across the Border at Sumas, Washington. I had the same problem when I first called the Customs office at Blaine. I don't think people import RVs very often so the person answering the phone may not know as much as the officers who do the searches and actually let you cross the border. Fortunately I had emailed U.S. Customs before I got through to them on the phone. I still have the email so I'll copy it here:

If you are inquiring about importing personally owned vehicles into the United States from Canada, here are a few helpful hints that can assist you. Prior to applying to import your vehicle into the United States, you must first ensure that you have in your possession the following:

* Proof of ownership such as ICBC registration or a bill of sale if recently purchased.

* You must verify that the vehicle meets both D.O.T and E.P.A labeling requirements.
The D.O.T. label can be found on the driver’s doorjamb. The E.P.A is usually found under the hood. If either labels are missing, then you must attain a letter of conformity by the vehicle manufacturer stating that the vehicle meets both D.O.T and E.P.A standards. If you cannot attain a letter of conformity from the manufacturer, then your only other option is to have the vehicle commercially imported utilizing a registered importer/broker.

Once you verified that you have in possession those items and your vehicle meets the requirements, you can now apply to import your vehicle into the United States at any of the local CPB Ports of Entry. A CBP officer will verify your documents and your vehicle’s VIN and then issue you CF7501 (A form that you will be required to give to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles in the state that you intend on registering your vehicle). Vehicles manufactured in North America generally are duty free (North American manufactured vehicle VIN’s start with the numbers 1,2,3,4 or 5). Duty may be assessed to vehicle manufactured outside North America.

If you require further information, then you can get it at:

*cbp.gov

*nhtsa.dot.gov

*epa.gov


Val, of course a trailer doesn't have to have an EPA label because it doesn't have an engine. But you do need the DOT label or the manufacturer's letter.

Our advice is to have the seller look for the DOT label somewhere on the trailer and have them send you a picture. We bought our trailer from a private party, so I'm not sure if anything is anything different in your case. That is, maybe if you are buying through a dealer, they may handle the import/export. I hope this helps. Good luck!

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Old 07-28-2007, 12:17 PM   #17
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Thanks, Maureen,

I called and spoke with a Customs Officer who said he'd been working Customs for 15 years and that unless it was a self-propelled motor vehicle, all they needed was the Bill of Sale, Title/Proof of ownership and proof that it was manufactured in Canada. To be safe, however, I will ask the dealer to locate the DOT sticker!
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Hmm, do any of the US-manf trailers have a DOT sticker? I surely don't know about one on my 1991 Scamp...
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:57 PM   #19
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Hmm, do any of the US-manf trailers have a DOT sticker? I surely don't know about one on my 1991 Scamp...
They are more likely to put on a FMVSS or CSA sticker since they are trailers, not vehicles.

Here is a link to the PDF for the rules. Sorry but it was too big (530 K for me to upload it exceeded my permissions.

A sample of the FMVSS sticker is on Page 26 and they go on to say
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(d) The label for trailers shall be affixed to a location on the forward half of the left side, such that
it is easily readable from outside the vehicle without moving any part of the vehicle.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:04 AM   #20
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Wow, Roy, thanks for the clarification. Perhaps some of the Customs Agents are so used to the rules relating to motorized vehicles that they are using the same terminology when providing requirements. We'll look for the FMVSS or CSA or non-DOT sticker (or deck-all).
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:43 PM   #21
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There's no duty on the trailer as it's made in Canada.

I've not heard of a DOT sticker being required for a trailer importation.
(Yes, I work at the border)

The D.O.T. sticker is usually a requirement for self propelled (motorized) vehicles.

To the best of my knowledge all you'll need is an ownwership cert and bill of sale.
Make sure both show the trailer's serial number.

If you don't care to deal with the long lines and the Blaine, Lynden or Sumas Borders.
Make a reservation at Lighthouse Marine Park in Point Roberts.
You can import the trailer at the Point Roberts crossing and then stay the night.
Point Roberts is about 15 minutes away from the ferry terminal.
Just make a right on 56th street and follow it to the end.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:36 AM   #22
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Dealer Kersti Clark was kind enough to immediately email us photographs of all the stickers and plaques to be found, including one that notes that the trailer is manufactured to ANSI standards, which should certainly address any US requirements about construction quality (ironically, at least two of the best made fiberglass trailers are from Canada anyway).

It's really nice to get confirmation from someone who does work at the Border that what I was told about the requirements is correct--no DOT sticker needed.

Also, thank you very much for the suggestion on which route to take heading out... the Lighthouse Marine Park in Point Roberts sounds much more appealing than some of the other crossing points, especially if the lines are shorter.

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Point Roberts is just a crossing to import your trailer.
It's unique as it's got Canada on one side and water on the other three.
By staying the night at Lighthouse Park, you've got a reason to import the trailer.
You'll still have to cross at one of the other ports, but you'll spend far less time importing the trailer at Point Roberts.
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