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Old 05-24-2015, 07:59 PM   #1
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Worried About Heater/Blankets

The last few nights we needed to turn the heater on & the blankets get close or touch the heater. I fall half asleep & wake up panicked that we are on fire. Should this be a concern or will it be fine as long as there's no flame touching the blankets.... just heat? Thanks
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Old 05-24-2015, 10:23 PM   #2
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Do not discount the effects of radiant heat. Even without direct flame impingement, anything combustible can eventually reach its ignition temperature. It is a very real concern, and could be deadly. Ever sit too close to a campfire and have your shoes start to smoke? As a retired Fire Marshal, I have had the misfortune of investigating many fires caused by a variety of heating appliances, some of them fatality fires. In general, the point of origin in just about all of them involved combustible materials too close to those heaters. You are correct to be concerned. Happy camping and stay safe.
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Old 05-24-2015, 10:26 PM   #3
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If the heater can get hot enough to make the blanket (or any nearby combustible substance) reach its kindling point it will catch on fire.
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Old 05-24-2015, 11:02 PM   #4
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We don't use our Little Buddy heater at night, but rather use the latest in technology, blankets. In mid March we awoke at the Illipah Reservoir Campground on US 50 in NV. It was 22F in our Compact 2, and 16F outside. Even our 5 month old Kitty was under the covers, and we were all warm as toast.
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Old 05-24-2015, 11:24 PM   #5
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you don't say whether you have a little space heater or an original equipment furnace.
the latter has redundant safety features. read the operators manual to both educate yourself and put your mind at ease.

ours has a couple of plastic refrigerator magnets stuck to the grille which have survived many years without any ill effects.
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I have the original Suburban furnace in my 2005 Scamp. I had some of the same concerns so I did a test with a calibrated temperature probe. I could not find any temperatures close to ignition temperatures at or near the grill. When I probed the upper right hand corner behind the grill one spot was closer, but still not at ignition temperatures. It's been quite a while ago so I don't remember the actual temperature or the published ignition temperatures of paper or other materials. It did relieve my concerns and the furnace runs many nights, some timee a nylon covering on a sleeping bag against the edge of the grill.

If you're concerned you can do a simple hand test, if you can touch it with your hand it's below ignition temperature. I do remember one temperature, 140F is approximately the point where flesh will burn.
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Blanket/Furnace

This was always a concern for me so I built a barrier.
If you are familiar with single, lower beds on board ship you may know that the mattress is usually kept in place by side boards. The outer board has a cut away so that you can set your arse on the edge of the bed without having a board under the back of your thighs.
The board is 10 inches high [you can make it higher] , at least a foot wider than the opening, full height for 24 inches on one end and 10 inches at the other. Cut-away is about 24 inches wide and cut down to just below mattress top level. Round out the cut-away, do not make right angles. Many years ago I had a piece of asbestos bolted to the furnace end but that stuff is hard to find nowadays.
On my Trillium 4500 I wedge the board between the cushions and the sides of the closet and counter, six inches on either side. It stores under the cushions when not in use. I am building a new one right now and when it is finished I will post a picture.
I hope this helps. Scouter Dave.
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:38 AM   #8
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Not a problem

Autoignition temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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It is my understanding that gravity furnaces are no longer available because of concerns about surface temperature.
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From Norm's link - Paper will ignight at 400 degrees. Forced air camper furnaces will never reach this temperature at the grill. I will check mine with an IR thermometer next trip but I will be surprised if the Suburban's grill gets to 200 degrees. I'm sure the Suburban engineers and lawyers have considered this.

OTOH, Other types of camper heaters (radiant) may be far higher in surface temps.

We use a down quilt overnight and the furnace is off unless outside temps fall below 40 - which is not infrequent.

I sleep worry free but do make sure the smoke alarm has fresh batteries.

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From Norm's link - Paper will ignight at 400 degrees. Forced air camper furnaces will never reach this temperature at the grill. I will check mine with an IR thermometer next trip but I will be surprised if the Suburban's grill gets to 200 degrees. I'm sure the Suburban engineers and lawyers have considered this.

OTOH, Other types of camper heaters (radiant) may be far higher in surface temps.

We use a down quilt overnight and the furnace is off unless outside temps fall below 40 - which is not infrequent.

I sleep worry free but do make sure the smoke alarm has fresh batteries.

John
John some precautions about inexpensive IR thermometers. They work pretty good when the air temperature is 72F. Away from that the accuracy drops off quite a bit.

When I measured the temperatures around by furnace I use a contact probe and air probe that had recently been calibrated.

You're right about the temperature of the grill below 200F, I believe the hottest temperature I measures was about 135F. Not quite hot enough to burn flesh, uncomfortable to keep a finger on for very long.
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John some precautions about inexpensive IR thermometers. They work pretty good when the air temperature is 72F. Away from that the accuracy drops off quite a bit.

When I measured the temperatures around by furnace I use a contact probe and air probe that had recently been calibrated.
Byron. You probably don't realize that I invested huge amounts of time (about 5 minutes) in online product research and a massive number of dollars ( $19.95) when I purchased my IR thermometer. It's made by some famous Asian brand, that I can't pronounce. Therefore it's accuracy is no doubt terrific. Right?

Thanks for your always sensible posts.

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Byron. You probably don't realize that I invested huge amounts of time (about 5 minutes) in online product research and a massive number of dollars ( $19.95) when I purchased my IR thermometer. It's made by some famous Asian brand, that I can't pronounce. Therefore it's accuracy is no doubt terrific. Right?

Thanks for your always sensible posts.

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Hmmmmm.... That sounds a lot like the one that I saw in the Dollar Store last week.... made by that famous Mfg. Laka Monee.... LOL
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We use an oil heater which does not have any hot coils exposed to the environment like almost all other heaters. It is virtually silent, also.

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