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Old 05-25-2014, 07:20 PM   #15
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Bernard: How did you measure or calculate the length of gas strut? Is there a particular brand to buy? Are they difficult to install? Is the weight of what they are lift factor in? i believe this is the best solution to storage underneath the bed and easily reaching the fresh water tank and converter. The idea is to use the space in the middle for my outdoor chairs, BAL Leveler, small folding tables.
Alright,a few of you are asking me questions via private message but it does not seem to work with my ipad so ill give details here.

I got lucky, i already had the gas struts and they fit well.
I dont know what strenght they are but a quick guess is that they are 50-60lbs each ...i bought them at my local electronic/surplus store. You can get gas struts at rv store, or salvage some from a old minivan backdoor...

The lenght is not super important, as long as they are shorter (when compressed)than the space under you plywood you ar ok...positionning is more important, If you use shorter stroke cylinder, the more you position them toward the hinge, the stronger they need to be, but higher the ply will lift and you position them toward the end of the plywood the less strong they need to be but the plank will go lower.

Normally the struts are bult with a ball end made to attach to a ball. Rv store will sell you mounts with the ball...i did not have the ball mount available the day i was building my setup so i took the ball mount off by unscrewing it...under is a 1/4" bolt. I used two hinges and a few angle metal pices to attach to the fg and ply to create pivot points.

I dont think any specific brand is better than another for an apllication like that, as long as you get the lenght/ strenght you need you are good to go.
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Old 05-26-2014, 04:40 PM   #16
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Well, since I need to have everything finished in less than 3 weeks, I've decided to go with the gas struts to lift the plywood. Instead of getting a Futon mattress that will have to be cut to make the curves in the trailer, I've opted to get this mattress

Spa Sensations 8" Memory Foam Mattress - Walmart.com

It can be cut with an electric knife. I already have the pattern. Brought the plywood home today. Gosh, prices have risen since I last bought plywood. I will have to get some contact paper to cover it with to keep splinters from getting all over the place. For the back cushions I have 4" memory foam and will make covers for two big pillows. If time permits, I am going to block in the space in the middle from the edge of the bed and put my outdoor chairs, tables, BAL leveler, straps and rope. These a now stored in the closet next to the bathroom. That closet will then get shelving (quick and dirty knock down) to store clothes, some canned goods, towels, pots, pans, mixing bowels, coffee pot and other sundry items. This should be much more comfy for a month long trip. I'll try to take pictures of progress.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:30 AM   #17
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I used the cushions to trace the curves.
One thing i discovered, you need to cut the plywood a good 2" shorter than the actual size at the sides, at the curves and at the back, to clear the curves and the window handles when you lift the bed...
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:48 AM   #18
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Do those baskets storage bins BLOCK you heater ??
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Bernard: Thanks for the 2" tip. From the picture I cannot tell if you have a strip of plywood attached at the back to put the hinges or if you have the front blocked off from the floor to the top of the bed. Would you happen to have any pictures?
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Do those baskets storage bins BLOCK you heater ??
No, I installed the furnace in the Hunter at the other end of the trailer, near the door.
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Bernard: Thanks for the 2" tip. From the picture I cannot tell if you have a strip of plywood attached at the back to put the hinges or if you have the front blocked off from the floor to the top of the bed. Would you happen to have any pictures?
I did it last year, from memory i only have bolts with nuts and spacers inside the cabinet on the hinge side...
What do you mean by front blocked off ? (My french side does not understand exactly what you want to know)...if you mean adding something to support the front, no i did not add anything i use a thick plywood, it does not bent.

I did add a piece of wood inside the where the pivot point of the cylinder is attach to the FG
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Do those baskets storage bins BLOCK you heater ??
LOL, which Bob is this question directed to. If me, the answer is that black thing behind the baskets is my new Power Converter, not a heater, and Bob Miller will surely recognize it as a PD4045. We have removed our propane furnace and use an electric heater at the opposite end of the trailer.
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Barnard: I guess I am confused too. I am trying to picture what you called the "hinge side". Not really sure about what or where that is. Can you elaborate please? Where is the "hinge" located? I am picturing a hinge along the back side of the bed, opposite the opening side. Or are you interchanging the word "hinge" with the word "strut"?
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Barnard: I guess I am confused too. I am trying to picture what you called the "hinge side". Not really sure about what or where that is. Can you elaborate please? Where is the "hinge" located? I am picturing a hinge along the back side of the bed, opposite the opening side. Or are you interchanging the word "hinge" with the word "strut"?
Yes i have two hinge along the back side of the bed along the wall attach to the Fg and the plywood.
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Oops wrong picture.
Look at this picure(enlarge it) you will see the tewo chrome hinges at the back.
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Really great ideas here, Bob, I love the Futon bed couch/dinette combo! Clever.
The gas struts by Bernard are so handy, Mary and Bob's sliding drawers...on and on
Great Mods Folks!
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