13' Scamp

[Kevin K]

This is the way I would like to have a 13' Scamp built for 2 adults.

No stove -- No sink-- No toilet--build a Bigger bed ( 5' 5"wide and 6' 2" long)--Still have the bed area so you can have a table and more storage area. Use a portable stove for cooking and a plastic tub for doing dishes. We very seldom use the stove in the scamp. We always cook and do dishes outside. If you need a toilet use a portable one and hide it in a cabinet. Space is at a premium in a 13' Scamp. I would rather have a bigger bed than all that other stuff.
When you go camping you should be outside anyway. Unless it's raining.

[Valerie G]

Kevin, IM single but completely agree with you!!! i do not use my sink or water, my stove is removed, as was the heater and frige. No toilet.

WHen Scamping we cook outdoors, and i usually, if its hot, have a rousing game of ring the cooler round the trailer a few times. =) keep it out of the sun. Funny I love my scamp for what it is and would not have it any other way.


yet

[E. Graham]

As we used to say, back in the self-focused '70s, "thank you for sharing".

[Loren G. Hedahl]

Back in the '70s we had a Compact Jr. that was layed out similarly. It did have a small 2-burner cook-top and a tiny sink and an ice-box.

We were more into hiking and climbing then, but did take a couple of trips zig-zagging across the country from coast to coast. It provided us with what we needed to see the country cheaply.

But I wouldn't want to go back to it from our Scamp.

[Cam A]

That looks pretty close to the front-sink Surfside layout.

[Donna D.]

Some great ideas! But, I camp differently than you. I do use all the amenities in my trailer, that's why I bought it. Otherwise, I could have purchased a used cargo trailer a whole lot cheaper and outfitted it to just be a hard-sided tent.

[Tim M]

This is the way I would like to have a 13' Scamp built for 2 adults.

No stove -- No sink-- No toilet--build a Bigger bed ( 5' 5"wide and 6' 2" long)--Still have

I love it Kevin, I'm guessing many on the site might not agree with you, but again we all camp differently.

I pulled my stove, my furnace, my sink, my icebox, everything out of my 72 Boler American and have been working on the reconfig. I am building around my plastic containers. For dishes, for food, for my hobbies - mostly rock-climbing gear. I have a pretty LARGE Vendor Tent I travel with... 10x20' so yes that gives me 200 s.f of outdoor cooking/eating space... needless to say, we only use the Boler for resting at night.

I am going to spend a bit more time looking at your drawings, I always love talking to people that have really made them custom to their likings, and how they camp.

Keep us update, and I'll try to post some of my most recent configs.

[Gina D.]

Scamp did/does have this floor plan. It has kitchen stuff in it tho.

We have seen a couple of them posted here, but I can't remember what it was called. It is a deluxe style tho. Nice wood and cozy looking.

[Kevin K]

Any one have pictures of the 13' Scamp deluxe style?

[Donna D.]

Any one have pictures of the 13' Scamp deluxe style?

Here's a post showing the front: Where to get professional mods?

Perhaps you can get Lorene to post more pics/information.

[Kevin K]

Lorene
What is the bed size in your 13' Scamp deluxe ?
Any more interior photos of deluxe style ?



Lorene I sent you a email

[Lorene W]

Kevin,
The bed measures about 78" by 53". Not quite as wide as you had hoped.

In this picture, you see a "loft" on the left built for two Boston Terriers above the foot of the bed.

[Lorene W]

Here is the front showing the storage cabinet and the "potty" compartment below.




There is a LOT of storage. Both those cabinet areas go all the way to the left wall under the counter. (Great for items that are used less often but still pretty easy to get to. Here is the upper cabinet in use - my "kitchen."



There are two closets, as well. Shown closed...



...and open



And here is a shot of the kitchen as you step in the door



The dinette (which I rarely use)

[Lorene W]

Sadly, there is no dishwasher and no washer/ dryer.

I try to load the trailer conservatively for travel. No water in tanks. If I bring a lot of canned goods I put them in the tug. This trailer weighs 1840 ready to go for one person. I know that's hard to believe. I had it weighed twice. Unhooked from the tug.

For me, this is a very comfortable and practical layout.

[Kevin K]

Lorene W
Thanks for the GREAT photos .

[Cam A]

For me, this is a very comfortable and practical layout.

Thanks for the shots, Lorene. It's enlightening to see just how much personal comfort you can fit into a small trailer with a little thought.

[MyronL]

This topic is very timely for me. I've done a lot of reconfigurations to make my 13 foot Burro a friendlier place for sleeping (and you can look 'em up) yet I (we) are still not content. True, if I were not 6 ft 7 and my other half not 6 ft 3 by now we'd be satisfied with my changes. The continuing agony of de feet, and de hips, or where they can fit, is our trouble

Taking stock:

• Don't need no dinette table to break down for sleeping. We like having a ready-made bed. Hell, if we want a dinette, we'll stay in a motel. Anyway, I don't play Parcheesie.
• Also never use the sink -- washing things outside in a 5-gallon bucket does us nicely. I feel safe enough brushing my teeth at the campsite lav and I sleep better after a walk.
• Never needed a refrigerator. A 60 gallon upright cooler with wheels is just fine.
• Setting up the porta-potty for those nocturnal senior emergencies leaves minus-zero floor space.
• We always use our propane stove. But that can be re-located.
• No way we lay out the bucks and kick it up a notch to a bigger trailer.
• When I kick the bucket my wife can roll the thing over a cliff, or sink it in the swamp, for all I'll care.

I therefore have begun thinking the unthinkable; that is, taking a much harder look at those Burro molded built-ins restricting how we bed down. For now, it is clear, they are the major impediment to a pleasant night. If we were average in height we could sleep cross-wise happily. But, we're not.

Drastic surgery is beginning to make sense to me. Not that I'm quite ready to tackle this job, of course. Cutting out that massive fiberglass cooking monolith does creep me out a little bit.

But thanks, Kevin, for starting this thread. It gives me more to chew upon. Those floor plans you showed are great. Found myself wishing there was one that employed sleeping the length of the trailer instead of the width. What computer program did you use to make them? I am now busy with pencil and graph paper drawing some floor plans of my own.

[Kevin K]

I changed the counter area just a little .

[peterh]

Kevin, I totally dig the layout. Because our sleeping hours are about one hour offset Lynne and I really like having a separate bed and dinette, but if we were OK with having a single bed/dinette setup . . . yours is a great layout!

Lorene: Your trailer is awsome!

[Sandra Lair]

Lorene,
Your Scamp is gorgeous & I envy you having all that storage space! This is not the standard Scamp Deluxe, is it? I've seen other SDs but the layout was the usual plan, just done in wood instead of fiberglass. Was this your own design?
Sandra