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Old 05-17-2014, 07:45 PM   #1
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1975 Trillium LED Tail and Marker Lights

Good evening!

Need some help with an update we need to do on our 1975 Trillium. We have the original T Bargman Co lights from Detroit, MI (90 STIA, and 90 STIAR). We'd like to go to an LED, but do not want to deal with body modifications if we can avoid it. We'd like something that is as close as possible to the original tail light. (Looking to replace the marker lights as well).

Does anyone know where we can order these? And also, if anyone has changed their's, can you offer any advice?

Thank you for your help!!! We've had our pod for nearly 10 years, and we just love it! But, the lights are overdue.

Thank you for your help! Here's to a wonderful camping season!!! Time to put the winter tent away, and go camping in the condo!
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:54 PM   #2
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There is no aftermarket substitute even remotely resembling the original taillights.

Some folks have installed smaller, complete LED taillights inside the original frameset, thus preserving the illusion of originality. My personal opinion is that such an "upfit" may well result in lights less visible than the original incandescents. This due to the extra layer of semitransparent red plastic over the lights.
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:03 PM   #3
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Some folks have installed smaller, complete LED taillights inside the original frameset, thus preserving the illusion of originality. My personal opinion is that such an "upfit" may well result in lights less visible than the original incandescents. This due to the extra layer of semitransparent red plastic over the lights.
I'll see if I can find the links for both the upfit and a recent post of a good price for the units in the USA.

As for the lights being less visable. Not a chance. The LEDs are brighter than the original incandescents and there are more of them. The upfit involves removing a LED module from behind one lens and installing it behind another. No extra layers involved. The LEDs were designed to go behind a red lens in the first place.
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:11 PM   #4
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Francesca found the good price initially here:
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...tml#post454666

link to some install posts
LED tail lights for Trilliums on sale in June 2012
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:44 AM   #5
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This is great help. I see Harbor Freight still has these lights for sale. My husband was going to order them from a local guy that does LED lighting on bucket trucks and such, but I knew you wonderful folks here would offer some great suggestions, along with information on how you did it. When it comes to these little trailers, they don't fall under the normal instructions for other applications. (I like $39.99 better than $125.00, but willing to pay $125.00 if they would do the job better - but didn't like the idea of changing out the entire fixture and putting something in it's place that was much smaller).

Fantastic. We'll be sure to let you know how this goes!
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:22 AM   #6
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Marker Lights LED

Me again - I see on these posts you provided the information on how to "gut" the existing tail lights and use the Harbor Freight model of the LED lights.

How about the marker lights? There was discussion in the posts about those as well, but I didn't see where that was done. Has anyone replaced those but keeping the same size as the original marker lights?

Thank you again - I believe we are finally making progress! Take care!
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:52 AM   #7
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Somebody probably has done the marker lights, not sure who though.
Dave Clapp comes to mind, not sure of his user name here, I'll be seeing him at the EggFestOntario, so I'll ask him about both his user name and LED's he used.

There is one person though that fit a small marker light into the rear housing into the vacant space. I don't agree with using an amber light and in this case agree with Francescas comment of having to go through two layers of lenses. LED Tail Lights at Harbor Freight
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:52 AM   #8
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As far as the marker litres go is there not a replacement bulb you can purchase ?
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That is probably the best answer Ron. Some of the lights even come with different bulb bases so you can get the right fit for your fixture. I.e. the replacement bulb plugs into the base which fits your fixture.
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I asked my husband why he wanted to change out the marker lights and he said "so they all match". I mentioned that normally people can't see the side of the trailer and the back of the trailer at the same time.

So, with that being said, I'm assuming it's okay to combine incandescent (keep the original marker lights) and LED for the taillights?

If so, I'll let him know, as I don't see the point in changing them out. But, the tail lights - it seems we are constantly changing bulbs after long trips - and they are just not that bright.

Thank you for all your help - I greatly appreciate it!!!
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Krysti,
It is going to be hard to give you direct advice on marker lights. For example Dave Tislton posted: "The marker lights are different on each of the three Trilliums in my yard." Are these original Trillium Marker Lights?

Yes you can mix regular and LED fixtures since they are both 12V. My suggestion is that if your husband wants all LED he pull a bulb from the marker lights, find out what size it is and then look to see if there is an appropriate LED replacement that fits as per Ron's suggestion.
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:18 AM   #12
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Bargman 47 58 031 match the marker lights on my trailer for shape and style
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Bargman 47 58 031 match the marker lights on my trailer for shape and style
Link to product: Clearance / Side Markers - Bargman
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Since Trillium did not stick to any particular style of marker lights, I don't feel the need to stay stock on these. I just went out an purchased marker lights that were already LEDs.
These:
2-1/2 in. LED Mini Red Clearance/Marker Light | Princess Auto
and these:
2-1/2 in. LED Mini Amber Clearance/Marker Light | Princess Auto

But these look more "orignal".
Amber LED Catseye Clearance/Marker Light | Princess Auto
Red LED Catseye Clearance/Marker Light | Princess Auto
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